The figures are only intended to be a relatively simple means of comparing different models. A car that shows a 10% greater range than another in the standardised testing is likely to have a similarly longer range over the other car on all motorway driving too. If they tried to come up with a multitude of ranges to better reflect how lots of different people actually use their cars, it would only likely confuse the issue more, and add to the testing costs.Didn't know that, very interesting. 46kph is painfully slow & not a useful indicator for consumers that are travelling long motorway distances.
The standards authority could do with adding a second tier to test the range at speeds of say 110-120kph in both warm & cold conditions.
This may be true in the sense that no one has to engage in commercial negotiations that they don't want to however if the OP has been sold a pup or mis sold a car with misinformation on it's range, even allowing for variance then that is a different story. I understand that is not the angle the OP was proposing but it is the angle I would be bottoming out if I were in his situation.
- Is the car defective?
- Was he mis sold a car based on false / incorrect range data?
If your concern is for your current car to trade in then approach a garage. Who know what will happen in 3 yearsHi, I’m considering moving from my hybrid to full electric. I’m looking at both the ID4 & Tesla 3 but am concerned hearing about garages not accepting evs for trade in. I will be on pcp so selling privately won’t be an option for me in 3 years when I look to change again. Should I be worried?
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the lady in question is a noted publicity hound and insta hun, i wouldnt take too much of what she says seriously.There was a topic on newstalk yesterday about dealers refusing to accept EVs as trade ins, they interviewed one of those dealers. She said that dealers got stuck with stock that they could not sell on accept at steep discount and can't afford to take such losses. She said other dealers are doing likewise and that they getting calls from previous buyers looking to trade back to diesel or petrol cars. Problems with getting onto public charge points, alot of punctures because so heavy, also can't be towed if they run out of charge and must be collected by rescue truck to get charged. The main issue is that if anything happens the battery and it is out of warranty, cost 20,000 for replacement battery
This is an interesting 30 minutes on why EV trade in values are low.
I'm back in a diesel after 4yrs running both EV & PHEV. What needs to change to get me to go back?
Why I've gone back to driving a diesel after 2 years with an EV and then 2.5 years driving a PHEV as our family car. What needs to change to get me to go bac...www.youtube.com
There were a few interesting points I took from this.
1. Dealers aren't prepared to take a risk on EV cars due to not knowing the battery degradation. You would have thought it would be possible to identify this?
2. Car manufacturers are not incentivised or required to make EVs more efficient (as they were with ICE cars) so the solution to date has been bigger cars with bigger batteries.
Would anyone dispute any of what he says?
Why?This discussion will do nothing to encourage people to buy an EV. I’ll be sticking with diesel. As long term as possible.
2. Car manufacturers are not incentivised or required to make EVs more efficient (as they were with ICE cars) so the solution to date has been bigger cars with bigger batteries.
Would anyone dispute any of what he says?
Funny I've had an ev for over 4 years and never had any of those issues bar depreciation which is a fact of most vehicles. How much do you think replacing an engine on a newish car would cost?Charging hassle, worry looking at % on a dashboard somewhere in middle of nowhere when trying to find a charger. Time lost. Depreciation. Huge cost of 20k to replace battery if it fails outside warranty. I often carry children and heavy baggage. Sitting around drinking endless coffee while waiting for a charge is not my idea of progress. You would want to be retired or unemployed with nothing better to do.
EGR,DPF, Ad blue, dieselgate, dual mass flywheels, dsg's. I'm so glad I got rid of my diesel. One problem after another. I'll never buy another. I've hung on to an older petrol that was vastly more reliable. Manual, real handbrake, no turbos, no software updates, etc...and an EV.
I must be lucky then as I've had 3 diesels and never had any of these issues with them (never needed to use Ad blue either) and my current mileage is very impressive for a large car (5.3L/100km).If I had diesel that gave no issues and was doing the mileage that made it viable I'd keep it. But I didn't and I wasn't..
I never had an EV but my BIL had to trade his in as it was stressing him out wondering if the overnight charge would be enough to get him to work the next day. He had to make two back to back round trips of 340km each week. At times he had to practically freewheel along the motorway to conserve the battery to get him to his destination.Funny I've had an ev for over 4 years and never had any of those issues bar depreciation which is a fact of most vehicles. How much do you think replacing an engine on a newish car would cost?
I charge at home once a week, far more convenient than going out of my way to a petrol station, fast charge less than a half dozen times a year and never had an issue. Oddly enough my children and or heavy baggage have never been an issue.
That's just a word Bingo of most of the fud doing the rounds.
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