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Zenith63

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On a medium length trip. I notice that one of the chargers offered 150kw charging. I had already plugged in to the 50kw.
Would the 150kw charge the ID.4 faster or is the ID.4 limited as to how fast it will charge?
It supports 125kW charging, so yes will be much faster on the other charger. Note that other charger has a slightly higher price.
 

Zenith63

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Many thanks. That's good to know!
FWIW all Ionity chargers will charge at your cars’ top speed and Tesla are in the process of allowing non-Tesla cars use their chargers as well, which again work at your cars’ max charging speed.
 

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Update: Charged the car up to 100% last night in advance of a longish trip today. Range showed at 506km this morning. So, the weather and ambient temperature really affects the potential range.
yes summer range is much better and much less volatile! ionity chargers are the way to go if it suits your trip, most charge sessions are 20 min or less such is the speed they can charge at.
 

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What does this work out as in total for a typical charge?
Ionity site says 71c per kWh here for the pay as you go option, 46.1c for ESB, so that works out around €44 versus €29 for an 80% charge of a 77kWh battery, circa 400km range per Slims recent experience.
 
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What does this work out as in total for a typical charge?
sorry Leo is correct Ionity is a little cheaper in ireland at 71c, whats a typical charge? depends on whether you are half way through a long trip and need a full refill to get there or you are on the way home and need a top up to get there.
 

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Ionity site says 71c per kWh here for the pay as you go option, 46.1c for ESB, so that works out around €44 versus €29 for an 80% charge of a 77kWh battery, circa 400km range per Slims recent experience.
Thanks Leo, not as cheap as I thought. €44 wouldn't be much less than a small diesel. I presume at home charging is much cheaper.
 

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Thanks Leo, not as cheap as I thought. €44 wouldn't be much less than a small diesel. I presume at home charging is much cheaper.
Much cheaper.

If you charge durign the day, yoiu should be on a rate of around 20-25c . If you have a day/night rate or a smart meter, and charge at night, you could be looking at <10c, depending on your plan
 

Blackrock1

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Thanks Leo, not as cheap as I thought. €44 wouldn't be much less than a small diesel. I presume at home charging is much cheaper.
Most people charge at night (and if they have any sense at a night rate). My night rate is 9.89 incl vat, if i charge from nearly empty id be putting circa 60 KWH into at at a rate of 9.89 for KWH so under 6 euro. We are urban dwellers so normally charge once a week, twice if we have a longish trip that week. Use ionity around a half dozen times a year max.
 

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Quick question please: I'm heading off for a couple of weeks. It's not that I think that someone would sneak around the back of our house and use our charger but if I flick the switch off at the 'fuse box, is that any harm?
 

Zenith63

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Quick question please: I'm heading off for a couple of weeks. It's not that I think that someone would sneak around the back of our house and use our charger but if I flick the switch off at the 'fuse box, is that any harm?
No harm done, but I really wouldn’t bother.
 

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FWIW all Ionity chargers will charge at your cars’ top speed and Tesla are in the process of allowing non-Tesla cars use their chargers as well, which again work at your cars’ max charging speed.
That's a bit incomplete. DC charge "speed" varies quite a bit and changes during a single charging session depending on a number of variables (current state of charge on the battery, battery temperature are the two main ones). You really only get the car's maximum charging rate at the beginning of a charging session if the state of charge is very low (below 10%) and the batteries are warm. And the charging rate will decrease as the car "fills up." After 80% charge it will slow considerably.

Best to think of the car's top charging speed as the peak figure but not a figure sustainable for a whole charging session.
 

Blackrock1

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That's a bit incomplete. DC charge "speed" varies quite a bit and changes during a single charging session depending on a number of variables (current state of charge on the battery, battery temperature are the two main ones). You really only get the car's maximum charging rate at the beginning of a charging session if the state of charge is very low (below 10%) and the batteries are warm. And the charging rate will decrease as the car "fills up." After 80% charge it will slow considerably.

Best to think of the car's top charging speed as the peak figure but not a figure sustainable for a whole charging session.
Depends on the car my etron gives pretty consistent speeds from low to 85 /90 percent.
 

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Update: car has lost the infotainment screen and driver information screen as in both are blank. Transmission selection is still visible. Rang VW dealer whose advice was to leave it for an hour, ie 'switch it off and on again'. Tried this, no change. Rang emergency VW breakdown number which actually calls the AA. As promised AA van arrived within the hour. AA guy sat in the car, held the infotainment on/off button down for 10/15 seconds and, hey presto!, all back to normal.

Most peculiar! Going to get it checked by VW!
 

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Perhaps software system in car was updating, should have requested your permission but once it's underway everything pretty much goes blank.
 

Slim

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Perhaps software system in car was updating, should have requested your permission but once it's underway everything pretty much goes blank.
You may have something there. On Thursday, VW dealership rang to arrange a software update. Later that day, a message appeared on screen but couldn't read it as the car was moving. Forgot about it as I thought it was something to do with the booked update. Ya lives and learns!
 

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You may have something there. On Thursday, VW dealership rang to arrange a software update. Later that day, a message appeared on screen but couldn't read it as the car was moving. Forgot about it as I thought it was something to do with the booked update. Ya lives and learns!
VW have an online tool to check for recalls or OTA update availability. perhaps that might confirm if yours was recently updated. You should also be able to see what version yours is currently running via the system directly.
 
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