The only thing I’d say is if at all possible aim for a location with more than one charger. Anywhere with Tesla chargers will mean no chance queuing behind them for access to your ESB charger, anywhere with Ionity means there will be at least 6 bays suitable for your car and you’ll never have to charge, anywhere with multiple ESB/EasyGo chargers would be next best but there are few of them around yet, then worst option is somewhere with a single ESB/EasyGo.I will stop at a Circle K for a fast charge tomorrow.
ABRP is more to advise on where to stop to make the journey the quickest so that could mean stopping en route at an IONITY charger rather than on the way back at a different one. It’s a route planner more so than a charge point locator. But seeing as you have made up your mind I won’t recommend it again.This morning, it was cold and the range had dropped to 404km and quickly dropped to 393 after a short trip to town. Back to 100% now and showing 404km.
I will stop at a Circle K for a fast charge tomorrow.
I haven't set up ABRP as I have 3 apps for the networks and I didn't care for its homepage.
Tried to set Mrs. S up but to set her up with her own log in(email and password) would have entailed deleting the vehicle from my phone!
Here goes..fingers crossed!
Also to set her up with the app you just put the app on her phone and use your login , there isn’t any need for two separate accounts.This morning, it was cold and the range had dropped to 404km and quickly dropped to 393 after a short trip to town. Back to 100% now and showing 404km.
I will stop at a Circle K for a fast charge tomorrow.
I haven't set up ABRP as I have 3 apps for the networks and I didn't care for its homepage.
Tried to set Mrs. S up but to set her up with her own log in(email and password) would have entailed deleting the vehicle from my phone!
Here goes..fingers crossed!
I do appreciate the recommendation and I will look into it! Thank you.ABRP is more to advise on where to stop to make the journey the quickest so that could mean stopping en route at an IONITY charger rather than on the way back at a different one. It’s a route planner more so than a charge point locator. But seeing as you have made up your mind I won’t recommend it again.
Ok, not trying to be controversial for the sake of it, but I genuinely don't get how you consider this to be "very pleasant." I have to say, it sounds like an absolute nightmare to me. Multiple charging points not working, multiple calls to sort it out, 44 minute top-up time....Overall, a very pleasant driving experience.
In fairness @Slim only needed a 10-15 minute stop, he chose to charge for longer, probably getting food as most tend to on longer journeys. Also had they stopped at the Ionity chargers (very next exit!) they could have charged at 150kW instead of 50kW and got away with a 5 minute charge, with the added benefit of there being multiple chargers to avoid the risk of having to queue.44 minute top-up time.
yes agreed, id imagine if the route had to have been planned in ABRP it would have suggested ionity (which would always be my preference) which would have been a 10 min stop max, with 4 chargers available most likely.In fairness @Slim only needed a 10-15 minute stop, he chose to charge for longer, probably getting food as most tend to on longer journeys. Also had they stopped at the Ionity chargers (very next exit!) they could have charged at 150kW instead of 50kW and got away with a 5 minute charge, with the added benefit of there being multiple chargers to avoid the risk of having to queue.
As Slim has said a few times, what this stuff highlights is mostly limited experience, better knowledge transfer to new purchasers would go a long way, as will hearing from Slim in a few months when they’ve worked this stuff out. It’s a little like picking up a rental car in somewhere like Italy for the first time, there’s a huge amount to get used to and even the basics like knowing whether you should use the benzina or gasolio pumps to fill it are a real challenge, until they’re not.
The faulty charger issues were annoying, though this is very uncommon (I’ve never encountered one) and can be avoided by stopping at locations with more than one charger.
@Blackrock1...I downloaded the ABRP app and it's a different appearance to the Web page I referred to above. I see what you mean and it will be very useful.yes agreed, id imagine if the route had to have been planned in ABRP it would have suggested ionity (which would always be my preference) which would have been a 10 min stop max, with 4 chargers available most likely.
It is in fairness. In the case of this journey you only really needed to add a few quid of charge to get you home (with some overhead incase there was an emergency), so the difference might have been €5-10. But I know the feeling when you're just getting used to this stuff, it's safer to just leave it charging while you're stopped eating anyway.About Ionity, is it not over twice the price of ESB per kW/hr? It's hard to justify if so.
I wonder in the future, will charging at stations like these be included in the finance packages for new EVs along with the likes of breakdown assist and servicing that we see currently?About Ionity, is it not over twice the price of ESB per kW/hr? It's hard to justify if so.
It all depends on what you value. If you want to get home as quickly as possible and also goto a location with multiple chargers, then ionity normally wins out, if you are happy to spend some time grabbing a bite to eat then a slower cheaper esb charger is a good option.@Blackrock1...I downloaded the ABRP app and it's a different appearance to the Web page I referred to above. I see what you mean and it will be very useful.
About Ionity, is it not over twice the price of ESB per kW/hr? It's hard to justify if so.
they already are to an extent, you can get a cheaper per mw/h rate if you pay a monthly sub, for some new cars you get a free year or two from the monthly sub.I wonder in the future, will charging at stations like these be included in the finance packages for new EVs along with the likes of breakdown assist and servicing that we see currently?
That's why I think they might be "thrown in" with the finance package - it's the same for breakdown assist for example. Maybe 30 hours per year at an Ionity station?For a lot of people you might only use these expensive chargers 5 or 6 times a year though.
I'd say give it a few years until the efficiency of solar panels improves quite a bit. The added weight of the panels and charging equipment would likely result in little to no benefit at the moment.I would like to see a solar panel built into the roof as a "trickle" charger. (it is a feature in some soon to arrive models) That would help with the range anxiety especially if in a remote area and of course the benefit of free trickle charging if parked up whilst playing a game of golf or lounging on the beach
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