Dun Laoghaire and Dog Poo.

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Just back from a stroll between Sandycove and Dunlaoghaire Pavilion area. I have never seen so much dog poo covering the footpaths. It was like threading through a minefield. One of the reasons as to why there is so much of it about is because the area is not being policed by dog/litter wardens. This has been a problem for years in Dun Laoghaire and one wonders why DunLaoghaire Rathdown County Council can not put a stop to this happening. The dog owners need to be caught and given a hefty fine.
 
I walk through Cabra the odd time at lunchtime and the place is covered in it (at least I hope it's from dogs!).
 
As I was walking back to my car there was an elderly woman walking the promenade about 30' in front of her dog. I watched her for a while and not once did she look back to see what her dog was up to. She may have been carrying a pooper scooper but there was no evidence of this. Out of sight and out of mind. It would be very difficult to catch and report those dog owners who walk their dogs when the evenings are dark. It would be also difficult to spot the dog droppings as you walked along in the dark and your would most likely end up with it on your shoe.
 
Resurrecting this old thread. Does anyone else feel this is getting worse lately? Around our town you daren't take your eyes off the footpath these days, there are mines everywhere. They range from the one stop plop where someone clearly waits for the dog to finish their job to the pull push method where the dog drops nuggets as they are obviously being dragged along by the owner. It's absolutely disgusting.
 
I used to walk in Cabra quite a bit. It was like an obstacle course with dog poo everywhere.
 
@SlugBreath got it right above. Many walkers of dogs couldn't give a whit of what their dog gets up to. If I can't see it, it didn't happen is their code. They put a not turned on mobile phone up to their ear and pretend to be talking to somebody while Fido performs ad lib almost everywhere. Last October Bank Holiday I was walking our two dogs in a nearby park and somehow I ran out of doggy poop bags. I asked seven people (all dog walkers) for a spare bag and none of them had one. Cork is the capital of dog poo.
 
Why I wonder, has there never been an a proper initiative into solving this problem with DNA testing of dogs and droppings?
 
I can't see the point. If owners won't clean up after their dogs there is a high probability they're unlicensed and not registered on FIDO or one of the other chip registration databases, thus neither the dog nor the owner can be traced. Futile poo testing unless as part of an enforced licensing & registration process, DNA samples are taken too.
 
mathepac said:
I can't see the point. If owners won't clean up after their dogs there is a high probability they're unlicensed and not registered on FIDO or one of the other chip registration databases, thus neither the dog nor the owner can be traced. Futile poo testing unless as part of an enforced licensing & registration process, DNA samples are taken too.
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Sure that's why in places where it's successful, they have a big stick.

Since it was rolled out in Mislata Spain 10 years ago this is being introduced into more and more communities there.


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It's a bit of a first world problem though, isn't it. I'm not saying it's not a bad thing but as a country if this is a topic of national concern then we really don't have too many problems.
 
Purple said:
It's a bit of a first world problem though, isn't it. I'm not saying it's not a bad thing but as a country if this is a topic of national concern then we really don't have too many problems.
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Or maybe we do have big problems, but this one might actually be amenable to action.

It is a symptom though of the general pathetic state of governance here when dealing with offences such as this, or littering, or anti social behaviour from neighbours, vandalism, graffiti - which taken together does add up to a national concern on my view.
 
odyssey06 said:
Or maybe we do have big problems, but this one might actually be amenable to action.

It is a symptom though of the general pathetic state of governance here when dealing with offences such as this, or littering, or anti social behaviour from neighbours, vandalism, graffiti - which taken together does add up to a national concern on my view.
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Fair enough, though we are very litigious and we bring proportionately more criminal cases than most of our European peers so I don't think it's an enforcement problem. I think it's more a societal problem. The littering, anti social behaviour from neighbours, vandalism and graffiti have been problems for as long as I can remember. In fact my recollection is that they were worse when I was younger.
 
Purple said:
Fair enough, though we are very litigious and we bring proportionately more criminal cases than most of our European peers so I don't think it's an enforcement problem.
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In the main they aren't being brought as criminal cases though, in some cases it is a "civil" matter, or a matter for a disinterested council.

And for actual criminal conduct, more cases can also be a sign of lack of enforcement through to the courts and consequences.
How many of those cases will actually come to trial, after how long, with actual consequences for the perpetrators.
Whereas in other countries, people won't just act the maggot cos they know they will face real consequences.
Study after study in criminology, for example, shows the importance of the consequences coming soon after the act to influence future behaviour - not 2 years later.
 
Purple said:
I think it's more a societal problem. The littering, anti social behaviour from neighbours, vandalism and graffiti have been problems for as long as I can remember.
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Yeah, when I was a kid I didn't learn littering was bad from the authorities, those lessons came from my parents and my peers via the lessons their parents taught them.
 
odyssey06 said:
In the main they aren't being brought as criminal cases though, in some cases it is a "civil" matter, or a matter for a disinterested council.

And for actual criminal conduct, more cases can also be a sign of lack of enforcement through to the courts and consequences.
How many of those cases will actually come to trial, after how long, with actual consequences for the perpetrators.
Whereas in other countries, people won't just act the maggot cos they know they will face real consequences.
Study after study in criminology, for example, shows the importance of the consequences coming soon after the act to influence future behaviour - not 2 years later
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I agree with you but the issue of the reform of the Justice System has been going on for as long as I remember and lawyers have very powerful trade unions; the Bar Council and Law Society.
 
Let's not blame the councils here and forget about litigation, that's not going to happen. The council didn't provide the dogs. It's the non responsible dog owners we should be targeting. Stay quiet and you're to blame also.
 
odyssey06 said:
And if you say something and are told to FO, then what?

For the FO brigade, that's where enforcement by the proper authorities is needed.
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A few years ago I was cycling in Dublin when a motorist threw a lighting cigarette butt out the window of their car which hit a cyclist in front of me. He picked it up and threw it back in the window of the car so that it landed on the back seat. Oh how I laughed.

Maybe responsible dog walkers should bring plastic gloved with them to pick up the abandoned poo and throw it at the dog owner. If they were feeling particularly brave they could wipe it on the dog owner (and be imaginative; if they are wearing a white coat then that's the target, if they have long hair that's the target, if they have a hipster beard... etc.).
 
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