Corbyn suspended

@Persia, most of the people who wrote to The Guardian are Jewish so to people like Corbyn their opinions don't count.
 
Thanks @Persia for that Guardian letter.

I got as far as the second paragraph and read this.

"He simply did not act. He failed to engage with those who pointed out how toxic the party had become for Jews."

This is wholly contrary to the detailed actions listed on page 1 of this thread that he did take, from April 2016 to July 2018.

It was the National Executive member, under the stewardardship of Iain McNicol that set about obsfucating, obstructing and delaying Corbyns instructions to deal with allegations of anti-semitism within the Labour Party. McNicol would be responsible for administering the Leader of Oppositions Office under the instruction of party leader Corbyn.

This is from McNicol's wiki page

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Sister Sara said:
Thanks @Purple for that Guardian letter.
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That was @Persia

I don't like Corbyn. I think he's an obnoxious person.

He suffers from that unforgivable arrogance so common amongst self proclaimed socialists epitomised by the belief that people who are to the right of them on economic and social issues are bad and selfish rather than they just hold a different opinion on what's best for society.

I also don't like his politics but the two are unrelated.

His perceived antisemitism could just be an extension of his anti-Americanism and general childish view of the world common amongst the pseudo-liberal left that Lenin so accurately described as useful idiots.

He reminds me of the old Workers Party/Democratic Left TD's but without the humour, humanity and general personal likeability.
 
Somewhat related, and a great day for British politics. The treacherous Raynor is dumped by the Unite trade union.

This lamentable 'Labour' party is imploding in on itself.

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Sister Sara said:
Somewhat related, and a great day for British politics. The treacherous Raynor is dumped by the Unite trade union.
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I don’t know anything about her but;
Sister Sara said:
This lamentable 'Labour' party is imploding in on itself.
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That is good news for the Labour Party as unions in Britain and Ireland have metastasised into a cancer on society and the more distance between them and Labour the more electable Labour become.

Imagine how successful Labour would have been if the Union block vote hadn’t elected the wrong Milliband? If David had been elected instead of Ed then they would have won the next election and avoided the incompetence and division of Corbyn.
 
Purple said:
If David had been elected instead of Ed then they would have won the next election
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If it was just about winning elections just vote Conservative, or FF or whoever is most popular in the polls and favourite to win.

Its not, its about politics.

Labour Party in Britain has been hijacked by the soft tory, liberal voter. No problem, but when the Labour Party leadership cannot stand behind a bin workers strike then that says so much.

Bin workers do not go on strike to hold nations to ransom. They go on strike to pay the bills, put food on the table and provide for their families.
 
Purple said:
I don't know why their world view is childish. I suppose it has something to do with forming your opinions at 14 and not changing them as you grow older. Most socialists grow old, they don't grow up.
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Not exactly textbook critical thinking but ok, I can see this is what you believe.
 
Sister Sara said:
If it was just about winning elections just vote Conservative, or FF or whoever is most popular in the polls and favourite to win.
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That's not the point I was making. By electing a man with no charisma but was in the pocket of vested interest groups, in this case the Unions, rather than a man who could attract moderate voters the Labour Party allowed the Conservatives a free rein.
Sister Sara said:
Its not, its about politics.
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Yes, politics is, as Otto ones said, the art of the possible.
Sister Sara said:
Labour Party in Britain has been hijacked by the soft tory, liberal voter. No problem, but when the Labour Party leadership cannot stand behind a bin workers strike then that says so much.

Bin workers do not go on strike to hold nations to ransom. They go on strike to pay the bills, put food on the table and provide for their families.
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Everyone goes on strike for more money. They often say that it's about something else but more money is always the solution so...
If the bin men (what's a bin worker?) were not justified in their strike then Labour should not support them. I don't know the details but maybe it's a victory of ethics over dogma.
 
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