Bin company asking what I do with food and garden waste

[arbitron]

The EU Waste Framework means we are legally required to reduce the amount of biodegradable material going to landfill. Food waste produces methane, a very powerful greenhouse gas 25x worse than carbon dioxide.

Apart from that, landfill space is limited and expensive, so moving food to composting and anaerobic digestion reduces costs.

It also gives us the opportunity to improve our energy independence by producing our own methane/biogas.

We don't own the planet, we are only here for a very short time, but each of us is leaving shocking amounts of pollution and waste behind us, whether directly or indirectly. It is totally reasonable (some would say an obligation) for the government to ensure we are good stewards for future generations.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Everyone is going through the motions here.

Government is criticised by the environmentalists for this stuff so a law gets passed. Environmentalists move on to something else.

The operators comply with the law by sending messages to their customers, the vast majority of which will be ignored.

The operators then pass on a list of addresses which are non-compliant to government.

But there is no canonical list of who lives where in Ireland so government can’t challenge named occupants of dwellings who are non-compliant.

No one is going to be prosecuted for this.

Maybe a few letters will be sent out to prop up An Post’s revenues.

 

[Bow tie]

I find it actually very odd that the government doesnt run a massive add campaign about reducing food waste to near zero. Surely explaining the impact of methane as someone did above, with notes about the cost impact oo, would be a more positive approach.
Perhaps a better solution than ripping bags, having bin waste on streets and sending pictures to people.

 

[Cervelo]

that plus their weird method of tracking payments and invoices with no overall account statement available

Yeah for me it wasn't their collection service, that worked like clockwork, it was the admin in the office that I had the problem with
as you say the "weird" accounting, adding charges to the account/contract that I hadn't agreed to and overall a feeling that Panda is always right and correct in all the things it does and the customer is always wrong or incorrect in their observations/opinions

I think I get good value for €246 a year with Panda

When we started with Panda we only paid for the black bin and the green bin was free, then they started to charge for everything
First off it was pay by weight and then they moved everybody over to a monthly service charge, unless you told them not to
That started at €17.50 Pm or €210 for the year which I was happy to pay even though it was about €20 more then I was paying by weight
That went up the next year to €20.50 or €246 per year and now according to Panda would be €23 Pm or €276 for the year
I presume the next price increase due to operational costs and profiting will bring the yearly charge to over €300
I'm sorry and as In said in my other thread I don't consider Panda or Greyhound move to monthly plans good value any more

So my point is, the bin company is scare mongering,

No I believe their telling you the truth but not the full story as has been posted above
As others above have said, tell them you look after your own composting and don't need nor require a compost bin
If you don't want a "Brown Bin", or indeed any bin, you don't have to have one, once you disposing of your waste properly and legally
Or at least that's my interpretation of the whole thing

No one is going to be prosecuted for this

I would agree, I don't think the councils have the time or the recourses to chase an individual who doesn't need or want a brown bin

 

[Zenith63]

Everyone is going through the motions here.

No one is going to be prosecuted for this.

Maybe a few letters will be sent out to prop up An Post’s revenues.

You’re forgetting about stuff like deterrence effects, signalling effects, broken windows theory etc. The vast majority of people will follow rules/norms if they know somebody is watching even in a fairly superficial way, it doesn’t need to be shootings on first offence. Yes it would be better if there could be strong enforcement for serial offenders, but that’s just to stop the last few percent of people, the goal is largely achieved long before.

Most people return library books even though there is no enforcement beyond an email, they reduce water usage because of supposedly monitored hosepipe bans, pay public transport fares because they might meet an inspector once in their lifetime, slow down when an unenforced speed monitoring sign tells them they’re over the limit etc etc.

 

[Des Pondent]

I don't consider Panda or Greyhound move to monthly plans good value any more

Monthly plans are good value for this fairly average household.
In September my black bin went out once with 24 kg in it. Green went out twice with 16 kg in total, and brown twice with 44 kg total. My bill on the monthly plan was €20.48. If I was on pay by weight my bill would have been €34.06.
There will always be some who do not benefit from the monthly plans. Each household should crunch the numbers and see what works out best for them.

 

[Cervelo]

Each household should crunch the numbers and see what works out best for them.

You should go back and crunch your numbers again as I get a figure of €44.15 for your September figures, if Panda is your provider

Monthly plans are good value for this fairly average household.

Agree with you totally based on your usage

There will always be some who do not benefit from the monthly plans

Yes and I'm one of those poor unfortunates

 

[Des Pondent]

I get a figure of €44.15 for your September figures,

Yes, you are right. So my monthly plan at €20.48 is even better value than I first thought .

 

[Marsupial]

Maybe I keep it under my bed, in the loft, sell it or just compost it.. its an unnecessary question and my own business I think!
Whatever next?!!

How about a poetry appreciation class?

Here's one that John Donne wrote all about you!

 

[Marsupial]

I find it actually very odd that the government doesnt run a massive add campaign about reducing food waste to near zero. Surely explaining the impact of methane as someone did above, with notes about the cost impact oo, would be a more positive approach.
Perhaps a better solution than ripping bags, having bin waste on streets and sending pictures to people.

Maybe it's cheaper for the government to quietly pay the various EU fines that we incur from breaching various directives.

 

[johnwilliams]

when did that legislation come into effect

 

[ClubMan]

when did that legislation come into effect

2023?

Bin company asking what I do with food and garden waste

I compost all food and garden waste at the back of the garden for veg patch and flower compost, so I do not have a compost bin from my bin company. I got a text from them saying I have am "legally required" to tell them what I do with my food waste. Really!!! What business is it of theirs? I...

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[johnwilliams]

thanks clubman must have read it previously so when i clicked on new, page came up further down hadn't noticed original date

 

[Marsupial]

black bin

I have a blue, a green and a brown bin. My mother in law has a red, a yellow and a green bin; you need to explain what a black bin is for!

 

[Marsupial]

I find it actually very odd that the government doesnt run a massive add campaign about reducing food waste to near zero.

50 (or more) percent of those ads would have to be in Irish, which would simply drive honest, decent taxpayers like me even further through the roof!

(It's bad enough having to listen to bowelscreen ads in Irish when I'm enjoying my morning croissant and latte. )

 

[Corola]

you need to explain what a black bin is for!

My black bin is green which is really confusing.

 

[ClubMan]

In a similar vein to the original post...

Tipperary council takes first successful case against tenant for not having household waste collection

Tipperary County Council has taken a council tenant to court for the first time over a failure to have a household waste collection service, it emerged this month.

m.independent.ie

The council regularly undertakes household waste surveys for its tenants who are living in social housing, and the results of these surveys determine what the next steps are.

"We ask people to show proof of their household waste service, if they do that, all’s well and good, and if they don’t, there’s an initial follow up by the environmental enforcement officer,” a representative from the environment section explained.

Social housing tenants are obliged, under their tenancy agreements with the council to have a waste removal service in place, whether that’s a wheelie bin service, or proof that they have taken rubbish to one of the five civic amenity sites across the county.

"If we’re not satisfied with the information provided by tenants, it can go down the route of issuing a fixed penalty notice, and also requiring them to obtain a household waste service,” councillors were told.

"Ultimately, if someone isn’t satisfying us, we can take them all the way to court.

 

[Sarah Ryan]

When you

Apple cores and such like get left out for the birds on their tables

When you roast a chicken, if you don't need the juice for gravy drain it into a bowl and mix in porridge oats and make mini fat balls the bird will love them.

 

[blanketyblank]

I am ,as someone else said, delighted that the bin company followed up with the OP as to what was being done with the food waste. Many people where I live throw it out their back door for birds to feed on - it’s gross. Makes the place look like a dump! Depending on what’s thrown out it can go on for hours .
I WISH waste disposal was followed up more vigorously in general . It might put a stop to people who throw rubbish out of their cars on country roads.

 

[Purple]

When you roast a chicken, if you don't need the juice for gravy drain it into a bowl and mix in porridge oats and make mini fat balls the bird will love them.

People who don't make gravy from the cooking juices when they roast a chicken deserve a slow and agonising death.