Are Cluchies insecure?

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I colleague from Dublin who now lives in Ratoath took umbrage when it was pointed out to him that his children are culchies. The discussion then broadened out and another person who is from Gerystones in Wicklow struggled to accept that they are also a culchie. Why do Cluchies struggle to accept their identity?

Can one of the Culchies posting here enlighten me?
 
odyssey06 said:
So they may not be culchies, it may be an annexation by Dublin...
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It's pointless to fight against the inevitable. If they grow up in the country then they'll be Culchies.
A Dub, on the other hand, doesn't have to born in Dublin. Anyone who lives in Dublin but doesn't go "home" for Christmas is a Dub. If you do go home for Christmas, no matter how long you've lived there, you're still not a Dub.

So there.
 
I was born in Holles St and then whisked off to home which was a in a large midlands town, moved to Dublin when I was 14 and always considered myself a country person even though I've lived in Dublin for last 40 odd years.
 
Persia said:
I was born in Holles St and then whisked off to home which was a in a large midlands town, moved to Dublin when I was 14 and always considered myself a country person even though I've lived in Dublin for last 40 odd years.
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Do you go home (back down the country) for Christmas?
If not you're a Dub. That's good news!



Are there any large towns in the midlands?
 
Purple said:
If not you're a Dub. That's good news!
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Happy with either but I consider myself a country person first, good to know there's an arbitrator on such matters though but I'll be appealing your ruling to the appropriate ombudsman ;)

So firstly a Country person
Second a Northsider
Third a Dub.

Dublin a funny old place, remember hearing about the Northside Southside divide only to find it a very real thing.
 
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Purple said:
I colleague from Dublin who now lives in Ratoath took umbrage when it was pointed out to him that his children are culchies.
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Is he from inside or outside the pale I suspect he is a Jackeen, if you google jackeen it will trow up self-assertive worthless fellow ,
I suspect he is struggling to accept his children new enhanced identity,
It can be hard on when he was growing up a common word was eegit his Children never use eegit but have a new word Deontas,
 
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bkenn14 said:
Is he from inside or outside the pale I suspect he is a Jackeen, if you google jackeen it will trow up self-assertive worthless fellow ,
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Jackeen means little Englander. The jack being a derived from the Union Jack (really called the Union Flag, it has to be flying on a Royal Navy ship to be a Union Jack). A well spoken Jackeen, or indeed one whom eats with their mouth closed, could be described as a West Brit. A Culchie who can breath with their mouth closed, while being a curiosity in their own right, is probably also a West Brit. They are generally old money and live in Kildare, Tipperary and the better parts of Meath (they also live in Cork but from aa sociological point of view that's a different country).
bkenn14 said:
It can be hard on when he was growing up a common word was eegit his Children never use eegit but have a new word Deontas,
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Yes, but that's grand.
 
To me, Culchies are people from outside the Pale in the first instance. Places like Greystones are spirtually within the Pale, almost colonies of the Pale, so I'd include them.

Ratoath is culchie land. The issue here is that you have an immigrant from the Pale refusing to accept and acknowledge the culture and refinement of Meath. So he is not a culchie but his kids are card carrying members who will grow up shouting for the Royal County
 
Purple said:
A Dub, on the other hand, doesn't have to born in Dublin
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I beg to differ. A product of the Mammy & Daddy who were culchies but also a boy delivered in the Rotunda. I've never been able to live down being born on DNS but dragged up in civilisation.
 
Peanuts20 said:
Ratoath is culchie land. The issue here is that you have an immigrant from the Pale refusing to accept and acknowledge the culture and refinement of Meath. So he is not a culchie but his kids are card carrying members who will grow up shouting for the Royal County
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When he mentions the hill his children think he is on about Castletown which really annoys him,

DUBS could do with a dash of Royal Blood to mix thing up a bit they were beginning to look alike,
only a matter of time before he has a grandson called Hector
Purple
When I Google Jackeen Irish slang
I don't know where you got all of that rubbish you posted in post no10 (I know you like no 10 and all)
The Journal which I know you read says a Jackeen is a fellow who dose very little for a living and wants to do less

I think you need to tell him Jack is a small union Jack and jackeen is a small dublin fellow waving a small union jack when the Royals came to town,

He should not feel out of place living in the Royal County and waving the Green and Gold Flag,
 
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As a resident of Waterford, Irelands oldest city we consider anyone outside the city’s environs as the original culchies .
Our ancestors looked out from the city’s walls at a hodge pot of naked savages painted blue or more frequently black and amber .
We are the original city dwellers , the rest are merely catching up .
 
Persia said:
Dublin a funny old place, remember hearing about the Northside Southside divide only to find it a very real thing.
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Actually it's a hell of a lot more complicated and nuanced than that. Granted the north inner city is more gritty than the south city - but head out further and it's a different story altogether. Residents of leafy (and very expensive) Clontarf would look down their noses at Sandymount, while Howth, Sutton and Malahide etc more than equal the likes of Monkstown, Sandycove and Dalkey - only with better beaches.

And good luck trying to buy a house in Glasnevin these days...think Terenure prices - or would you prefer Dolphin's Barn?!

In truth it's largely a coastal thing...apart from the red-bricked Edwardian builds of the mature inner suburbs on either side of the Liffey which are fairly equal these days.
 
Howth Head said:
Actually it's a hell of a lot more complicated and nuanced than that. Granted the north inner city is more gritty than the south city - but head out further and it's a different story altogether. Residents of leafy (and very expensive) Clontarf would look down their noses at Sandymount, while Howth, Sutton and Malahide etc more than equal the likes of Monkstown, Sandycove and Dalkey - only with better beaches.

And good luck trying to buy a house in Glasnevin these days...think Terenure prices - or would you prefer Dolphin's Barn?!

In truth it's largely a coastal thing...apart from the red-bricked Edwardian builds of the mature inner suburbs on either side of the Liffey which are fairly equal these days.
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While you may be correct that's not in the spirit of this thread. We're here trying to reinforce stereotypes and make sweeping generalisations. Stop being factual. Imagine you're at a meeting with Trump... okay, go!
 
Purple said:
The discussion then broadened out and another person who is from Gerystones in Wicklow struggled to accept that they are also a culchie.
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As someone who was forcibly moved to Greystones for his teenage years, I can fully empathise with that person
My understanding was and is today that if your house phone number is in the 01 directory you're not a culchie :)
 
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