From the Indymedia link "This article by David Gibney from the Right2Water website has been republished here in light of the upcoming water charges protest on this Sat 23rd Jan in advance of the election due in the next few weeks. It highlights the scam and lies around Irish Water and how it is fully intended to privatise it. If and when the TIPP agreement is signed between the EU and USA, privatisation will be unstoppable not just for our water but for all services right across the board. "
Indymedia can hardly be accused of being a balanced or impartial or even rational source of information.
Your second link, money guide ireland, shows that a figure of 68,405 is for a single occupancy household but that the average usage is in fact 54,750. In other words the link you posted shows that your assertion is incorrect.
From the link;
" On our sample – the average usage for a single person medium usage household was 68405 l per year.
With two people in a house the average household usage was 113609 l (which is 56804 per person per year ). With 3 people in a house the average usage was 138115 l (46038 l per person per year )"
Water infrastructure is not owned by IW so what would they be selling???
You said something which was completely incorrect an now rather than correcting yourself you deflect. Not good.Yes, yes but how much actual conservation did domestic metering provide and was it cost effective?
It wasn't a "good exploration of different views", it was you offering opinion as fact and offering facts which have been shown to be completely incorrect.This is "jumping the shark" ......................I'm done, good exploration of different views, though takes all sorts, I guess
You said something which was completely incorrect an now rather than correcting yourself you deflect. Not good.
It wasn't a "good exploration of different views", it was you offering opinion as fact and offering facts which have been shown to be completely incorrect.
Smiley faces and references to "Happy Days" doesn't disguise that.
Ok point taken, I did say E&OE but apologies offered as I'm not an expert and not involved with any of the sides in the debates.
Helpful yes but I read somewhere that they did not need house meters to detect most of the leaks, perhaps estate or area meters did the job and If I can find it I will post it.
Apparently P Murphy only receives 40k per annum approx. and not the full TD salary. The balances going to a Party Pot. So in fairness to him with that income isn't he entitled to free legal aid?
Fair comment and one that is difficult to respond to. Water privatization was introduced to the UK in 1989 and today they have one of the most expensive water/sanitation charges in the World despite having a metering ratio of c33%.How did it happen in UK or other places?
Fair comment and one that is difficult to respond to. Water privatization was introduced to the UK in 1989 and today they have one of the most expensive water/sanitation charges in the World despite having a metering ratio of c33%.
This is a relevant issue to those who fear a similar situation arising in Ireland and one that would need to be openly and properly addressed by FG in their defense of IW retention. I cede the point on this issue
Very simple. The Thatcher government decided to privatise the State water infrastructure. Irish Water won't own the Irish water infrastructure so its development is moot to any suggestion of a similar privatisation in Ireland.
You can't be sure of that in the future......... worldwide crash, major recession, war(s)
Another bailout and No Pension Reserve, still the Gov can always raid the private pensions again or do a "Bail In" like Cyprus where deposits were stolen.
Or maybe the IMF will make us privatise the water infrastructure so its worth buying by the huge water corporations.
I utterly fail to understand how anyone would object metering water usage and charging based on the same so you can properly pay for upkeep.
By all means if you want to keep your "the state pays for everything" socialist politics put in even more generous free allowance or whatever, and make sure that water infrastructure and provisioning keeps in public ownership via legislation.
But even on that salary his legal fees were €50k I believe.
Any objective outsider would think it strange that a pre-condition to any talks would be the elimination of a revenue stream, whatever that might be, without first discussing overall budgetary strategy.
Come on!!! He was facing a criminal charge in a public court. Does every defendant in every case in that court incur legal fees of €50K?
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