In other words, my comments are every bit as worthless as yours are! Refreshing to see that at least we agree about something.
You may draw whatever conclusions you wish from my earlier comments.
An unsuitable President ? And the failure of mainstream politics
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In other words, my comments are every bit as worthless as yours are! Refreshing to see that at least we agree about something.
You may draw whatever conclusions you wish from my earlier comments.
I wish our new President well in her role as 1st Citizen and Head of State and the out-going office-holder well in his retirement.
Watching the ceremony on the telly, good to hear representatives of the various religious sects and none share common sentiments and words. Disappointed that the "signer" for hearing challenged citizens wasn't shown on screen for the various speeches.
Watching the ceremony on the telly, good to hear representatives of the various religious sects and none share common sentiments and words. Disappointed that the "signer" for hearing challenged citizens wasn't shown on screen for the various speeches.
I was very disappointed by the highly political and divisive tone of her speech. I hopes for better.
What disappointed me were the references made by some of the pre-ceremony talking heads to "the Republic of Ireland". The ceremony was the inauguration of "the President of Ireland" - the Republic of Ireland U-17s were playing Paraguay later on a different channel in a different country. Maybe they were confused. A RTE commentator made reference to head of the Roman Catholic Church in Ireland; there is of course no such church. Cop on lads and ladies, you're paid more than enough to be better briefed.
But even Popes have referred to it as the Roman Catholic Church? Is it pejorative to you?
There are 24 different Catholic Churches. The Latin (RC) Church is the biggest and the other 23 accept the Pope as their spiritual leader but they are still different Churches with their own Patriarchs and different traditions, for example many allow married priests. Hence the distinction.
She's already in the cycle land and has curbed the alloys and that's before she's driven from the Castle to the new gaff.
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I've just listened to the speech.
In what far-flung corner of the multi-universe could her speech be described as political and divisive?
The whole tone of her speech was hope for those in despair, admiration for the wealth of culture and talent in this country, aspirations for a united Ireland (as per the Constitution), heeding the spectre of the normalisation of war and genocide, and climate change.
Where is the political division?
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And did she end with a rousing chorus of Kumbya and an invitation to everyone to offer one another a sign of peace?
Because if not, then I want my money back.
Left wing agenda being repressed by the establishment, neutrality mentioned numerous times, pro immigration message a number of times etc. Even RTÉ’s commentariate said it was a political speech and they can’t hear her properly because their head is so far up her posterior.
Where? When? Who? The Church's teachings state that there is only one "Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church". End of.
Benedict in 2006 mentioned it 3 times in 1 document.
And before him JPII many times, e.g. in this speech in 1989.
What's the problem with the term?
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This is politically divisive? She campaigned on it, won hands down.
This is divisive? Since when did Ireland have anything but a pro-immigrant policy? We joined the EU and signed up to Maastricht!
Sure, there are dangerous clowns around fostering anti-immigrant sentiment but they have no political mandate or representative in any chamber across the country.
Where was the division in her speech?
Contradictory and inaccurate.
Maybe her reference to Article 3 of Bunracht na hÉireann is seen as divisive by those who haven't read it or don't understand it.
But multiple popes have used it in official documents and speeches?
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If they haven't read it or don't understand it how can her reference to it, be seen as divisive to them??
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I said political and divisive. She is meant to be the president of all of the people, even the ones who do not share her political views. That's why the president is meant to be above politics.
Neutrality is a political policy so by its nature it is divisive.
Yes, of course it's divisive. I'm pro immigration and I voted for every EU treaty in my adult life but I recognise that immigration is a political and divisive subject.
Unfortunately they do but that's for another thread.
Possibly, but I doubt it.
I didn't find the parts of her speech which were in Irish divisive or political as I didn't understand them.
