Aviva vaccination centre - why the long queues?

[Salvadore]

Delighted to have received my first jab on Friday in the Aviva. However, I was shocked at the extent of the queues for what were pre-bookings.
I arrived 10 minutes before my appointment but I was queuing for an hour and 20 minutes outside the stadium just to confirm I’d arrived. Once inside, I queued for over an hour for registration and eventually the jab. Total time - 2 and a half hours.

I don’t wish to appear ungrateful. All of the staff and volunteers were professional and friendly, but something’s gone wrong.

it’s not an isolated experience. Anyone I know who’s been vaccinated in the Aviva has had the same experience. Apart from the inconvenience, it can’t be good to have so many unvaccinated people in such close proximity for so long.

Other centres seem to operate much more quickly. Friends of mine who used the helix and puchestown were in and out in far less time - 45 minutes in the case of the helix, 20 mins in punchestown.

 

[almostthere]

Two hours for me. One hour for my wife. A half hour for my friend. All at Aviva.

I would have thought that they might have sorted out this by now. But then again you are dealing with the HSE....

 

[Prosper]

But then again you are dealing with the HSE....

I don't think it's the HSE's fault directly. I was jabbed Sunday two weeks ago in the Aviva 30 minutes after entering the building at my appointment time. The following day a friend waited about two hours before receiving the jab. The problem appears to have been that lots of people that were scheduled to be jabbed over the bank holiday weekend turned up on Monday and subsequent days because they had gone away for the weekend.

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

It's better than being dead lads?

 

[Salvadore]

It's better than being dead lads?

Of course it is but that’s not the point.

 

[Powderfinger]

I got my first jab in Carlow yesterday. Including the wait afterwards, I was in and out in 30 mins.

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

Of course it is but that’s not the point.

What is the point then because I'm clearly either mitigating it or don't think it's a valid reason to be talking about it.

The vaccine is free of charge, we have administered 2m with a majority in the last 3 months despite the ongoing issues.

I genuinely fail to see why being in a queue for 2hrs or 1hour or 45mins is important or a cause of concern/agnst.

There are millions if not billions who would be grateful to be waiting 2 hrs.

 

[odyssey06]

What is the point then because I'm clearly either mitigating it or don't think it's a valid reason to be talking about it.

The vaccine is free of charge, we have administered 2m with a majority in the last 3 months despite the ongoing issues.

I genuinely fail to see why being in a queue for 2hrs or 1hour or 45mins is important or a cause of concern/agnst.

There are millions if not billions who would be grateful to be waiting 2 hrs.

It's basic organisational (in)comptence. People shouldn't be left queuing outside for 2 hours in the elements, full stop.
It's not teenagers queuing for a gig or a once off event.
When they first opened, teething problems could be forgiven, it's gone on so long now either they are just inept or don't care.

That it is for an essential vaccine is neither here not there. It's needless.

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

It's basic organisational (in)comptence. People shouldn't be left queuing outside for 2 hours in the elements, full stop.
It's not teenagers queuing for a gig or a once off event.
When they first opened, teething problems could be forgiven, it's gone on so long now either they are just inept or don't care.

That it is for an essential vaccine is neither here not there. It's needless.

Ah come on Odyssey we are hearing about Dublin and Dublin 4 in particular.

I know many even out here in Kildare wondering how quiet the centres " appear " to be" again just what I heard.

Of course one could say " isn't great that the population is actually getting vaccinated and the hesitancy that some were worried about isn't evident ". or a pragmatic appraisal of the situation.

One or two people's experiences certainly doesn't say the whole system is falling apart. And the weather isn't something that even the HSE can control or Met Eireann forecast accurately. Bringing and umbrella would solve the latter.

The "kids going to a gig " analogy has me bemused/befuddled to be honest.

 

[Salvadore]

There are millions if not billions who would be grateful to be waiting 2 hrs.

There are billions who would be grateful to live in Ireland but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t give out about the weather, the government, public transport etc.

Having people wait 2 and a half hours isn’t a good thing no matter how virtuous the reason.

 

[Salvadore]

It was the experience of the couple of hundred of the people I shared a queue with on Friday and the hundreds who were in the queues of the people I know of who were vaccinated at the Aviva.
Overall the vaccination programme seems to be working very well but there seems to be a problem with the Aviva.

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

There are billions who would be grateful to live in Ireland but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t give out about the weather, the government, public transport etc.

Having people wait 2 and a half hours isn’t a good thing no matter how virtuous the reason.

Well I disagree

 

[Salvadore]

Clearly

 

[odyssey06]

Ah come on Odyssey we are hearing about Dublin and Dublin 4 in particular.

I know many even out here in Kildare wondering how quiet the centres " appear " to be" again just what I heard.

Of course one could say " isn't great that the population is actually getting vaccinated and the hesitancy that some were worried about isn't evident ". or a pragmatic appraisal of the situation.

One or two people's experiences certainly doesn't say the whole system is falling apart. And the weather isn't something that even the HSE can control or Met Eireann forecast accurately. Bringing and umbrella would solve the latter.

The "kids going to a gig " analogy has me bemused/befuddled to be honest.

Its not one or two people. It is being reported across social media from multiple dates by multiple people.
I expect the ones posting are just tip of the iceberg.
There is something dysfunctional going on persistently at specific MVCs which should not be tolerated. It is not a hiccup.

Precisely because they cant control the weather it should be factored onto the queuing system. First AZ vaccine places enough strain on the system without having people face it as a drowned rat.

I mentioned gigs because this is not a voluntary thing people can take or leave.

If you have stats showing aviva waiting times contradict the evidence of posters then please share. Otherwise their evidence stands.

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

It was the experience of the couple of hundred of the people I shared a queue with on Friday and the hundreds who were in the queues of the people I know of who were vaccinated at the Aviva.
Overall the vaccination programme seems to be working very well but there seems to be a problem with the Aviva.

In fairness you can't speak for all those hundreds unless you spoke to each of them.
Of course its an annoyance but lets be honest here everyone was there to get a vaccine that will protect them and hiccups will be expected.

I'm signing off now as I'm not get into a rabbit hole argument on something that Joe Duffy will probably cover tomorrow or whenever

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

Its not one or two people. It is being reported across social media from multiple dates by multiple people.
I expect the ones posting are just tip of the iceberg.
There is something dysfunctional going on persistently at specific MVCs which should not be tolerated.

Precisely because they cant control the weather it should be factored onto the queuing system. First AZ vaccine places enough strain on the system without having people face it as a drowned rat.

I mentioned gigs because this is not a voluntary thing people can take or leave.

If you have stats showing aviva waiting times contradict the evidence of posters then please share. Otherwise their evidence stands.

Post the "social media " of the complaining then.

Where would I get that data on waiting times? And as sure as ..... social media wouldn't be the place I'd look for it.

 

[odyssey06]

Post the "social media " of the complaining then.

Where would I get that data on waiting times? And as sure as ..... social media wouldn't be the place I'd look for it.

Not sure what evidence would convince you then or why you are so quick to dismiss the reports.
We have no reason to doubt the bona fides of the people raising this.

I have seen multiple similar issues raised on other social media channels I follow.
Where do you expect such reports to emerge???

You are shooting the messenger in the absence of any other message.
By your own admission you have no idea of the waiting times.
So why are you shooting down genuine reports?
I just dont get it.

 

[Salvadore]

In fairness you can't speak for all those hundreds unless you spoke to each of them.

I can actually. They may not have cared but they were all definitely waiting at least two hours.

Whether you think that’s reasonable or not is a different matter.

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

Not sure what evidence would convince you then or why you are so quick to dismiss the reports.
We have no reason to doubt the bona fides of the people raising this.
Zero.

I have seen multiple similar issues raised on other social media channels I follow.
Where do you expect such reports to emerge???

You are shooting the messenger in the absence of any other message.
By your own admission you have no idea of the waiting times.
So why are you shooting down genuine reports?
Makes no sense.

I'm not shooting anything I'm simply questioning the importance of standing in a queue is more of a cause of angst when the reason is more important.

Are we now expecting the rollout of the vaccine to be tailored to ones expectations or for the good of the country as a whole? Or indeed ensure good weather?

Sometimes it's necessary to " suck up and plough on"

 

[Paul O Mahoney]

I can actually. They may not have been cared but they were all definitely waiting at least two hours.

And each of them told you verbatim what you are now saying online.......thats curious and highly implausible.

Look I'll apologise if my "empathy " for this seems to be lacking, but deep down?