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My worry would be that the OP has shot themselves in the foot career-wise. As Clubman pointed out, queries like this should be raised on a one to one basis with management. I think this will reflect very badly on the OP.
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My worry would be that the OP has shot themselves in the foot career-wise. As Clubman pointed out, queries like this should be raised on a one to one basis with management. I think this will reflect very badly on the OP.
Well,
wasn't very constructive, was it?Ask your manager if he/she's willing to give you hand. I'm sure they won't mind
This has certainly dragged out..Come sense applies.
If its too heavy dont lift it, if its a couple of folders and if you an manage your computer etc. work away, if its out the door and down a flight of stairs just ask a co-woker to accompany you to hold the door. If they ask you to relocate the back up generator currently installed in the basement to its new home on the roof (you get what I mean) then you would have a case for movers etc. We're all big boys and girls so we know what we can and cant lift & shift....
If its too heavy dont lift it, if its a couple of folders and if you an manage your computer etc. work away, if its out the door and down a flight of stairs just ask a co-woker to accompany you to hold the door. If they ask you to relocate the back up generator currently installed in the basement to its new home on the roof (you get what I mean) then you would have a case for movers etc. We're all big boys and girls so we know what we can and cant lift & shift....
I thought that was reasonable as well but it seems we are wrong...
What precisely do you mean by "more or less told"?
If the OP is with a large company, I guarantee that a quick call to the Health & Safety dept in Head Office will ensure that the plan will change very quickly.
Yes, it may well do his career some good (without the sarky rolleyes). When those who have the smarts to see the big picture here see what the local penny-pinching manager is trying to do, the local manager is likely to get hung/drawn/quartered. The potential risk to the company from expecting untrained personnel to lift PC monitors in/out of their own cars, and driven in their own cars is substantial. The OP will almost certainly save the company money in the long run.That'll do your career good, well done
I guess the 2500+ people who suffered manual handling injuries (This category includes “lifting and carrying”, “pushing and pulling” and “twisting and turning of the body”.) in 2005 (see Table 24 from [broken link removed]) were just little boys & girls - right?
There are going to be various sorts of injuries and accidents in any line of work, I pricked myself with a stapler today do I need to now call in a binding company for further works due to my injury?
Out of that percentage how many had to report it due to ridiculous company policy. For example I had a cut on my finger that I mangaged to open one day in work, 5 minutes later a safety officer arrived down with a three page statement for me to fill out accordingly and register?!
How often have you seen people obviously struggle with their belongings carrying the lazy mans load or trying to horse a photcopier out of the way to get their pen from behind it? Can common sense not be applied, if its too heavy do not lift it, if its too awkward ask for help.
I am not suggesting that the OP start shifting full filing cabinets and photocopiers in their mini cooper but where does it stop?
Out of that percentage how many had to report it due to ridiculous company policy. For example I had a cut on my finger that I mangaged to open one day in work, 5 minutes later a safety officer arrived down with a three page statement for me to fill out accordingly and register?!
How often have you seen people obviously struggle with their belongings carrying the lazy mans load or trying to horse a photcopier out of the way to get their pen from behind it? Can common sense not be applied, if its too heavy do not lift it, if its too awkward ask for help.
I am not suggesting that the OP start shifting full filing cabinets and photocopiers in their mini cooper but where does it stop?
Somewhere around carrying a PC monitor in your own car.
I have often moved my own PC/files equipment around; If something is too heavy I ask for help. Is this a sign of things to come " Its not in my job description therfore I'm not doing it".
I am not suggesting that the whole office shift eastern operations westward leaving only the bare shell of their office behind them.
Has common sense gone out the window altogether?
I am not suggesting that the whole office shift eastern operations westward leaving only the bare shell of their office behind them.
Has common sense gone out the window altogether?
It is not a question of 'not in my job description'. It is a question of a very bad decision by the local manager. The truly valuable employee will have the cojones to question the local manager and do the right thing.
Just because you've done a bit of moving and you haven't been injured, that doesn't make it the right think to do. You'll need better logic than that. You may not be doing any favours for your employer by lifting inappropriately.
So for the record, have you moved equipment such as PC monitors between buildings for your employer in your own car? Would you have any reservations in doing this, knowing that it may well invalidate your insurance policy?
Just because you've done a bit of moving and you haven't been injured, that doesn't make it the right think to do. You'll need better logic than that. You may not be doing any favours for your employer by lifting inappropriately.
So for the record, have you moved equipment such as PC monitors between buildings for your employer in your own car? Would you have any reservations in doing this, knowing that it may well invalidate your insurance policy?
I move site on and off and would take my laptop/printer/monitor/boxes of files etc. and honestly I wouldnt think twice about it. If it was a large piece of equipment etc. I'd obviously call out a shipping agent off my own bat and wouldnt be quetioned on it. If I was I'd be fairly blunt in my answer!
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KalEl
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I think you're way off the mark here RainyDay...if everyone took your attitude the country would grind to a halt. It's probably an LCD screen anyway. Nobody is advocating taking unnecessary risks. It's more a case of if you can carry it safely do so.
But awkward people who make mountains out of molehills and cause difficulties about simple stuff like this tend to get run out of town pretty quickly. (I'm not saying that's right)
I wasn't questioning your driving skill. I was questioning your willingness to drive without insurance. I'm not suggesting that the extra load makes it more likely that you will have an accident. But it is still possible that that will be the one day that you will clip the car in front, or worse still, a pedestrian.
Perhaps you might stick a large sign on the back window indicating that you have no insurance, so the rest of us can give you a wide berth.
Perhaps you might stick a large sign on the back window indicating that you have no insurance, so the rest of us can give you a wide berth.
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KalEl
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To be fair the point is that carrying work stuff in your car may invalidate your insurance in some cases...it's not that the PC monitor would somehow cause you to crash.
If I take files home with me am i therfore invalidating my insurance? Unless I'd shown a flagrant disregard for safety when storing it eg. sellotaped to the roof, I'm not going to loose any sleep over it.
I think we are beating the life out of this! My point is that common sense should be applied as much as possible.
I think we are beating the life out of this! My point is that common sense should be applied as much as possible.
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KalEl
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No, as you're not using your car specifically for work when you bring files home. But when transporting equipment during an office move you are. I know when I last organised my car insurance one of the questions was do I use the car just for personal use. The answer would affect the premium obviously. If I say yes it's just for personal use and then crash while acting as a de facto removel man for my employer that could lead to a problem.
It's not like an insurance company would use small print to try and weasel out of paying you money, now is it?!!!