England v Mexico match
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elefantfresh
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Have to bear in mind it was a friendly after all - I thought England didn't look great at all - still trying out options at this late stage - they will certainly be better than that next month but I feel they will need a good bit of luck to progress onwards.
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As an Irishman I hope England win it...
They are our closest neighbour and I will be supporting them in the World Cup.
They are our closest neighbour and I will be supporting them in the World Cup.
Well he could hardly say 'we were minding ourselves so as not to pick up injury before the world cup'.
I would consider it if they didn't seem to enter every world cup with the unshakeable belief that they have a really good chance of winning it.
It's as ridiculous as it is annoying.
Since 66, they have made it to - what? A couple of quarter finals literally? Didn't even qualify on a good few occasions too.
I know it's an old chestnut but please - enough with the hopelessly misplaced bravado.
Though in fairness, not as bad as they once were. I think Jimmy Hill was the main culprit.
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My abiding memory of him is him complaining that the Garda were too heavy handed when dealing with English hooligans in Landsdowne Road. He was almost crying on match of the day.
Thats nothing to when he blamed a poor Blackburn ball boy on national TV for giving the ball back too quickly to Liverpool and causing a goal to be scored.
I remember that. What a putz!
England got to the semi finals in 1970 and 1990 (where they lost on penalties to West Germany). It still amazes me that you can cheer for Wayne Rooney of Steven Gerrard each week, but then hope that they lose when they are playing for their country. Small mindiness.
I look forward to England's participation in major Finals and the inevitable collision of hubris and reality.
I especially hope that it comes down to a penalty shoot-out and that John Terry is the one carrying the nation's hope on his shoulders and that he once more cracks under the pressure.
That said, Don Fabio is a better manager than they have had in Finals in a long time, so they could do well.
I especially hope that it comes down to a penalty shoot-out and that John Terry is the one carrying the nation's hope on his shoulders and that he once more cracks under the pressure.
That said, Don Fabio is a better manager than they have had in Finals in a long time, so they could do well.
I suppose, but by that same virtue you could be cheering for Henry, Ballack, Torres, Ronaldo, etc and still not want to see their national side win anything spectacular.
Who is "you"?
And England fans don't hope that the Argentinians, French, Germans....etc etc
...make a quick exit?
I love the way everyone always goes Ireland needs to mature and how small minded we are because we enjoy seeing England suffer another disappointment in a big sporting event. IT'S SPORT. It's supposed to be about fun and banter and slagging between fans. My English friends understand perfectly why I take delight in seeing themselves build themselves up and then self destruct!
Tough choice between John Terry and Ashley Cole as to who I would like to see miss!
Tough choice between John Terry and Ashley Cole as to who I would like to see miss!
Why is that strange? Alot of English people boo those players every week and then cheer them on in an English shirt. What's the difference?
+1 to Sunny's last 2 posts.
Ireland supporters are far from unique. As I mentioned above, the English fans have their teams that they love to see fail - and plenty of them it seems.
You see this everywhere. I'm sure the Portuguese don't exactly feel brotherly empathy where Spanish victories are concerned. Poles wouldn't exactly be raising glasses at the prospect of a German world cup success et etc
Ireland supporters are far from unique. As I mentioned above, the English fans have their teams that they love to see fail - and plenty of them it seems.
You see this everywhere. I'm sure the Portuguese don't exactly feel brotherly empathy where Spanish victories are concerned. Poles wouldn't exactly be raising glasses at the prospect of a German world cup success et etc
Maybe not in Ireland.
I bet there are plenty of ABGermany fans in Holland and/or Poland and/or Austria etc etc
And I bet there are plenty of ABPortugal fans in places like Angola and other former Portuguese colonies.
When it comes to sport, people cheer for a team and not necessarily the players who play for that team - If I cheer for Ireland does that mean I must also cheer for Man City (Given), Man Utd (O'Shea), Wolves (Doyle), Stoke (Whelan) etc etc.
We follow the English game every week, support English players, and then shout for whoever their opposition is. Alot of English people actually support Ireland and hope we do well whenever we play.
Its like the way we slagged the English over the 'Hand of God'. Why don't they get over it? And then when the same thing happens to us, we kick up a huge fuss. Small mindiness.
Its like the way we slagged the English over the 'Hand of God'. Why don't they get over it? And then when the same thing happens to us, we kick up a huge fuss. Small mindiness.