Would converted garage qualify under rent a room?

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1eyeonthefuture

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In the process of converting large garage into a 1 bed, 1 bath, galley kitchen & sitting room initially with the intention of using it as a spill over for kids and for guests etc.

An article caught my eye re rent a room scheme and it got me wondering if such a conversion would qualify.
Same elec/broadband/address etc as the main house.

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if the garage is connected - does access to the main house have to exist in order for the relief to apply or can the garage be completely self-contained with no access to the house?
 

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If the garage doesn't have access into the main house, it likely becomes a self-contained unit, see the requirements here.
 

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If the garage doesn't have access into the main house, it likely becomes a self-contained unit, see the requirements here.
There are 2 different pieces of legislation, with different definitions. The question was about rent a room relief.

For rent a room relief, it doesn't have to have access to the main house, but must be originally a part of, or attached to, the main house.

However, for PRTB purposes, it must have access to main house or it becomes a self contained unit.

It's possible to have a situation where a converted garage qualifies for rent a room relief, but is covered by Residential tenancy legislation.
 

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There are 2 different pieces of legislation, with different definitions.
Yeah, the link I sent was on specifics of the Rent-a-Room relief, there is a section that deals with self-contained units that specifically calls out converted garages that is applicable to the OP here. I'm not 100% sure, but my understanding is that a garage, even an attached one does not constitute part of the original house as very different standards apply and they do not qualify as habitable space.
 

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Sorry @Leo
I shouldn't have quoted you, but there is a confusion in others comments about the definition.
Neither apply in any case to the OP since it's a detached garage.
 

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if the garage is connected - does access to the main house have to exist in order for the relief to apply or can the garage be completely self-contained with no access to the house?
This is what I have, an ' attached self contained unit' which was a garage part of the original house, your normal semi d with side garage. The garage used to have access to it so I put in a false partition when the conversion was done. It has it's own private entrance via the back of the house, many on the same estate have the same conversions with the door to the front. For NPPR and household charge I registered with two units. Ditto PRTB. For property tax it's the one property and for rent a room it qualifies if I return to live in the house. It has the same water supply as the house but I split the ESB for free back in the day when the meter was inside the the ESB wanted them outside.
 
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if the garage is connected - does access to the main house have to exist in order for the relief to apply or can the garage be completely self-contained with no access to the house?
From Leo's link:

Self-contained unit

The rented room or rooms can be a self-contained unit within the house, such as a basement flat or a converted garage.

If this unit is not attached to the property it cannot qualify for the relief.

So the OP's garage does not qualify.
 
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Yeah, the link I sent was on specifics of the Rent-a-Room relief, there is a section that deals with self-contained units that specifically calls out converted garages that is applicable to the OP here. I'm not 100% sure, but my understanding is that a garage, even an attached one does not constitute part of the original house as very different standards apply and they do not qualify as habitable space.
How does a garage that was built as part of the original house not qualify? Or even one that was built later but is attached to the house ?
 

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How does a garage that was built as part of the original house not qualify? Or even one that was built later but is attached to the house ?
Habitable vs non-habitable space I presume, otherwise they wouldn't have called it out in the guidance.
 

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Habitable vs non-habitable space I presume, otherwise they wouldn't have called it out in the guidance.
I'm clearly not getting your point. By it's nature a garage is not habitable. You have to make it habitable.
 

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I'm clearly not getting your point. By it's nature a garage is not habitable. You have to make it habitable.
I mean not habitable means it's not considered part of the original house (just as you're not allowed include non-habitable space in floor area calculations) and so falls outside the criteria for rent a room relief, where as if you section off some of the habitable space into a self-contained unit, you can then opt out of the requirements to register under the Residential Tenancies Act.

It's complicated by that fact that planning permission is required to create a self-contained unit, and such planning where granted usually forbids the letting of that unit.
 

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It's complicated by that fact that planning permission is required to create a self-contained unit, and such planning where granted usually forbids the letting of that unit.
That's mad, Ted

You can apply for planning for a self-contained unit so long as it's not used fully as a self-contained unit? Any wonder, there's blood on dem streets?
 
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