Why do you never get a receipt in a pub anymore

[Leper]

Most of us are too acceptable of what is going on in Irish pubs. Even in the unlikely event there’s a price-list on display, you’ll not be informed of the practice of electronically increasing the price of everything as the night progresses. If this can be done by the cash registers, surely issuing a receipt is a simple matter?

My Advice:- Drink at home at a small fraction of the cost in your pub. Publicans continue to put themselves out of business and of course blame everybody else. And you can watch what you want on your own television.

 

[patfert1]

electronically increasing the price of everything as the night progresses

Is the even legal? I suppose technically they can send someone out to replace the price list that is presumably hanging at the entrance to the pub.

Regarding receipts, I lived in an Eastern European country when they introduced mandatory receipts for everything in an effort to combat tax cheating. I'd say in the latter respect it had a positive impact, but caused delays in places like farmers' markets where receipts had to be written out by hand and everyone left them lying on the table anyhow.

 

[odyssey06]

Yes, the price can increase over the night. What you can't do is drop the price and raise \ restore it to original price aka a Happy Hour.

 

[patfert1]

Yes, the price can increase over the night. What you can't do is drop the price and raise \ restore it to original price aka a Happy Hour.

So the pub can raise prices as the night goes on and the pub fills up, but not lower them during the day when the pub is empty. One-way dynamic pricing. What a world we live in.

 

[odyssey06]

So the pub can raise prices as the night goes on and the pub fills up, but not lower them during the day when the pub is empty.

I think you can start out with lower prices and then at say 6pm or 11pm raise them. So go from €4 to €6 is ok.
But what you can't do is reduce the price on something during the day and then revert it back, which was a feature of 'Happy Hour' pricing e.g. €6 down to €4 and back to €6.

 

[Fortune]

One-way dynamic pricing. What a world we live in.

It's been going on for more than 20 years

 

[kierane]

Sorry I bothered opening the thread as I'm the only one that seems to think that its courtesy to be at least be told what the charge is...I thought it was a given in a retail environment to be told to told how much you have to pay before tapping card. I wasn't looking for a detailed breakdown or anything.

Thanks for starting this thread. Some of the comments and warning are very useful.
I have taken to using Applepay which doesn't have the €50 limit but I think I will revert to cash or card only in the future.
@Des Pondent's suggestion of asking for cash back also a good option!

 

[Davex2irl]

Yeah it is very annoying, pubs just expect you to blindly tap and trust what they have entered is correct.

 

[Fortune]

expect you to blindly tap and trust what they have entered is correct.

You reach out your phone and use it to push the screen of the terminal down to read the amount before unlocking your phone to pay

 

[Cervelo]

pubs just expect you to blindly tap

Aye, they can "expect" but there's nothing stopping you from asking how much and may I have a receipt
If you blindly tap or pay for something without knowing the price beforehand well I feel for the most part you've no real grounds to complain later on for what you were charged

 

[elcato]

So the pub can raise prices as the night goes on and the pub fills up, but not lower them during the day when the pub is empty.

In about half the pubs I drink in, they give bar prices to locals. It's not much but it's something and it appears to be happening in a few pubs in the city now. Of course there are still pubs that actually have cheaper pints at all times.

 

[mathepac]

Loyalty cards for porther, now there's a thought.

 

[Leper]

1. @mathepac raised an interesting point regarding Loyalty Cards - Why not?
2. Pubs/Hotels are supplied with free kegs/barrels based on their weekly orders from the breweries (no big secret).
3. Suppliers also pay for windows, mirrors, parasols etc advertising their wares in pubs.
4. There are also “loyalty” extras supplied to the publican.
5. There are also breweries sponsorships of sales nights in pubs where you can win a tee-shirt or biro or some other coveted item. Extra free keg(s) are supplied for these.
6. Pubs are compensated for stuff that has gone past sell-by date. Some of the out-of-date items continue to be sold hoping the customer won’t notice.
7. There are also Secret Drinkers who visitmost pubs every few weeks. He (usually a He) ensures that (i) Guinness is sold in a Guinness glass (ii) It’s in good condition (iii) Presentation is good. The Secret Drinker usually presents the Test Pint free to somebody on the premises. Publicans can’t counteract this; they would if they could from my experience.

So, our pubs are decreasing in number? Many are opting to drink more elsewhere. And the Vintners continue to moan to anybody prepared to listen to them.

The city, town, village, rural pub has a place in Irish society, it’s a pity many publicans don’t recognise this. It’s time they did, but the Golden Goose appears to have been killed already. And who is responsible? - Publicans should look into their brewery sponsored mirrors to find out.

 

[odyssey06]

Technically illegal to offer deals to some and not others ie based on spending X. You can have discounts for club cards etc but it has to be available to all. And that will likely be next for the chop.