Who's for President 2025? Any takers?

Hard to know where things stand now. Will Mary Lou jump in the ring and split the left/Paddystinian vote? Will FG find another candidate? Or will Bertie sneak in the backdoor?

What I do know is that I don't want yet another radical leftist in the office. So my "protest" vote will probably go to Michael Flatley (if he runs.)
 
I wonder if Sean Kelly will be persuaded to throw his hat back in the ring now.? FF seem to be flying kites to see what the view on Bertie is.

It's an element of Mexican standoff, everyone is waiting to see who runs to then decide if they want to run themselves.
 
The best thing that could happen is that both Bertie and Enda Kenny are in the race....back to the 2 tribes and a proper presidential race...and hopefully no worthy or novelty candidates.....probably end in a confidence and supply rotating arrangement.
Enda is 35/1......I'll have a bet at that . The odds would shorten if he's a candidate. Then a lay, and enjoy the popcorn
 
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Peanuts20 said:
I wonder if Sean Kelly will be persuaded to throw his hat back in the ring now.? FF seem to be flying kites to see what the view on Bertie is.

It's an element of Mexican standoff, everyone is waiting to see who runs to then decide if they want to run themselves.
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I couldn't take another 7 years of hypocritical virtue signalling crackpot student-union socialism. Connolly isn't as bombastic as Micky D (is anyone?) but she's a lot in common with him in that she's from Galway, pro neutrality, speaks Irish, is equally blindly anti-American and supports mass murdering dictators. She's not nearly as rich as him though, otherwise she would probably still be in Labour.

Her membership of Independents 4 Change with Clare Daly and Mick Wallace is of most concern to me. I don't want someone who supports Russia and engages in whataboutery in relation to their invasion of Ukraine as my President. Therefore I'll vote for whomever I think will be the best centrist candidate who will put the integrity of the office ahead of their own ego and political views.
 
NotMyRealName said:
The best thing that could happen is that both Bertie and Enda Kenny are in the race....back to the 2 tribes and a proper presidential race...and hopefully no worthy or novelty candidates.....probably end in a confidence and supply rotating arrangement.
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I'd vote for Kenny but he's 73 and recovering from cancer so I don't think he'd run.
 
Purple said:
Her membership of Independents 4 Change with Clare Daly and Mick Wallace is of most concern to me. I don't want someone who supports Russia and engages in whataboutery in relation to their invasion of Ukraine as my President. Therefore I'll vote for whomever I think will be the best centrist candidate who will put the integrity of the office ahead of their own ego and political views
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Her support for Gemma Doherty would also be a concern to me.

Frankly, it's starting to look like I might have to vote for the least damaging candidate.

Heather Humphrys being mooted again this morning.
 
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I'd vote for Kenny but he's 73 and recovering from cancer so I don't think he'd run.
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Bertie is 73 and Michael D was 77 last time out. Health issues are surely important to the candidate, but it's a largely ceremonial role, and in 7 yrs they'd both be 80...whether they're president or not.And if anything happened in between, there's always Dave Fanning as a go-to .
 
Think Enda has ruled himself out, if true, is a pity.

Sean Kelly thinking about throwing his hat in the ring is a tad annoying. He's recently elected as an MEP, if he leaves it triggers a fresh election? at some cost but it also suggests that he is not really interested in the role if he is willing to abandon it at the first sight of a shiny new toy.

If I had voted for him to represent me in Europe, I would be quite disappointed.
 
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Sean Kelly thinking about throwing his hat in the ring is a tad annoying. He's recently elected as an MEP, if he leaves it triggers a fresh election? at some cost but it also suggests that he is not really interested in the role if he is willing to abandon it at the first sight of a shiny new toy
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One of a number of reasons I have little time for Mary Robinson (that, and like a lot of emigrants, I found her "candle in the window" just so patronising and insulting). I know Bertie was far from perfect, but the Celtic Tiger brought a lot of us home.

Be interesting to see what they Shinners reaction to Heather Humphreys would be, a Presbetaryian whose Father was supposidly in the Orange Order.
 
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Be interesting to see what they Shinners reaction to Heather Humphreys would be, a Presbetaryian whose Father was supposidly in the Orange Order.
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Not only was her father in the Orange Order but her Grandfather signed the Ulster Covenant opposing Home Rule (as did about a half a million other Unionists). She describes herself as a proud Republican. She sounds like the epitome of an all-island candidate and exactly the sort of person that Sinn Fein should be getting behind.
 
Persia said:
Think Enda has ruled himself out, if true, is a pity.

Sean Kelly thinking about throwing his hat in the ring is a tad annoying. He's recently elected as an MEP, if he leaves it triggers a fresh election? at some cost
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An MEP has a replacement list. Martin Conway would take over. That's probably the primary reason FG won't nominate Kelly.

Enda Kenny would not have the level of health required. He has recently battled cancer and very much takes a back seat in politics these days and enjoys his retirement

For all his ills, we may see Bertie Ahern enter the race and I reckon despite his history he'd have a strong following. Unlikely as an official FF candidate, but would have the backing of several councils and possibly a bunch of independents.
 
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See Kelly has thrown his hat in the ring.

To be nominated, a candidate needs the nomination of 20 members of the Parliamentary Party, 25 Fine Gael Councillors and five members of the Executive Council.

An electoral college voting system applies – the same as to ratify the Programme for Government or elect a Party Leader. Under this electoral college system, every member in compliance with the two-year rule has a vote.

The membership element of the college is worth 30% of the overall vote, the Councillors’ votes are worth 15% and the Parliamentary Party votes account for 55%.

In the event of an internal contest, I won't be voting for Kelly, he has a job he is recently elected to, I would advise him to get on with it. Any job i was hired for I executed with 100% commitment and dedication. What happened to conscientiousness?

Humphries to me is a good candidate, for a variety of reasons. Popular across the board from independents to FF and would be well able for the role from the go.
 
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In the event of an internal contest, I won't be voting for Kelly, he has a job he is recently elected to, I would advise him to get on with it. Any job i was hired for I executed with 100% commitment and dedication.
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That was also his view a month ago when he said he felt compelled to fulfil the mandate he’d been given by the voters. So much now for the mandate.
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What happened to conscientiousness?
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It goes out the window when you get the opportunity to pick up a large salary to occupy the world’s greatest retirement home. In fairness, I think we’d all pursue that option.
 
Salvadore said:
It goes out the window when you get the opportunity to pick up a large salary to occupy the world’s greatest retirement home.
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If this was the real world and I was recruiting for a very senior role and one of the candidates was looking to leave a senior role in another company after just a year, I'd be quite cautious about proceeding to the next round with that person.
 
Persia said:
If this was the real world and I was recruiting for a very senior role and one of the candidates was looking to leave a senior role in another company after just a year, I'd be quite cautious about proceeding to the next round with that person
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He's been an MEP since 2009. 16 years in total.

What he is doing is no different then any of us in a job, sometimes we look around to see what else is out there and if a more attractive role comes up, we apply for it.
 
Kelly is 73. That means he won't be getting the pension for too long after his term. That's a plus.
Crackpot Connelly is 68. She'll be around for a while after her term.
Heather Humphreys is 65 so she'll also be around for a while after her term. Then again if she does two terms she'll be near the finishing line when it's over.
 
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Crackpot Connelly is 68. She'll be around for a while after her term.
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So presumably she's already pulling in her State Contributory Pension as well as a TD's salary. (Just as her fellow TDs Rosie Shortall and Catherine Murphy were doing before retiring last year!) You've gotta admire those wealthy "socialists"!

I assume that Connolly will get a hefty pension top-up for being a former Leas Ceann Comhairle too!
 
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