Who are "the people who do not work"?
Unemployment is at, or heading to all time lows.
Is it? If we used the same measure as France for determining unemployment, what would ours be e.g. participation in the workforce.
Why would I use the same measure as France? Should we just cherry pick whatever measure we want to suit the narrative that we wish to push?
But im open to alternative viewpoints, what is our unemployment rate using the French measure.
Why would you choose the Irish ones and not the French ones?
The main point is that if you want to count "the people who do not work", you really cannot base it upon the declared Irish unemployment rate.
Why do more Irish peple live in jobless households than in the rest of the EU?
Because Im talking about Irish unemployment figures. I cannot really discuss Irish unemployment figures if the discussion is open to comparing them with measurement models any given random nation.
Are you talking about the unemployed as per the arbitrary definition of the Irish government or those who do not work?
I was talking about the unemployment rate, but I sense you are not satisfied with such. So im happy to use the "those who do not work" figure (Irish measurement model or French?).
So let me know what it is and how it has anything to do with there being a supposed generous housing system in this country when homelessness is at record highs, waiting lists record high, private rents through the roof, high rates of mortgage arrears, age profile increasing of those living at home with parents, etc...etc...
Is it any wonder more and more people want to put their feet up and expect to state to provide everything when it is so generous.
When something is free there will never be
we are sucking in people from outside Ireland to do the jobs Irish people won't do and I'm not talking about Facebook IT workers.
Our model just ain't sustainable and is slowly eating itself.
A jobless household is defined as one where the average time worked in the last year by adults of 18 or over was less than 20%.
But the huge difference between Ireland and the rest of the EU 15 is the fact that 56% of adults in jobless households have children living with them. It's less than half that in the EU 15.
In other words, most jobless adults in the EU 15 do not have children living with them. This brings down the number of people living in jobless households.
I don't believe that's a correct interpretation?Take a working career couple earning €120,000 (€85,000 and €35,000). Along come children, and by third child, one partner decides to stay at home and raise kids. Between cost of childcare, school and creche runs, cost of petrol on long commutes, pressure of working hours, one partner decides that for next number of years they will leave the workforce and raise kids at home.
At 20% , this is a VLWI household.
I don't believe that's a correct interpretation?
If people on job activation schemes were included in the unemployment figures, the rate of unemployment would be roughly 3 percentage points higher – a significant impact
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