what to ask for in feedback about a vacancy pfo

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- just checking here with ye on possible process

just got a PFO back from a job saying that i did'nt meet the required criteria for an interview for a Job which is internal

ok thats good enough, but this is the second time that a posting has came up for a job in this area of company internal job

and prior to this - i was told blah blah that i was thorough in my job , good feedback from clients

this time feedback i got was that the decision was made based on feedback from my performance in the past and manager comments


now to my knowledge i get glorious reviews , have got bonuses from time to time etc and have got any reviews i get i get accordingly
But yet when i go for this promotion i'm not considered strong enough as a candidate for even an interview

do ye think i'm just been edgy about this
or maybe i'm not selling myself enough

the role is in IT support and while i do understand that sometimes people in the door might have newer qualifications , u would think having a degree and post grad qualifications plus 7 years experience would count for something , but sadly not the case here

Is there anything i should be asking in the area of self developement ie additional skills when i approach the person who would have given feedback on my skills etc

Or just mark it off as experience - in that i was trying to jump outside my ranks or above my station
 
In my experience, there is a bit of politics involved when it comes to internal vacancies.

Are you getting an interview or being rejected before the interview stage?
 
Maybe ask what criterion you needed to meet, and how can the company enable you to achieve this ......
 
As Flax has suggested, I'd go down the political route. If possible try to have semi-formal chats with your current manager and hiring manager. Phrase it more as looking for constructive feedback rather than why didn't I get the job.
No harm with pushing yourself a bit, in fact some times that's the only way you'll get promoted. Again depends on the lie of the land, how have others in a similar position to yourself gotten promoted?
 
You should have a discussion with all the relevant parties involved about what you need to do to put yourself in a position to be considered for the job you really want. Bear in mind that just being good at the job you currently do, doesn't necessarially make you a good canditate for a promotion as there is often a completely different set of skills involved. You need to find ways to improve on the necessary skills while still doing your own job (sometime involves taking on extra work or projects).
This proactive nature is normally seen in a very favourable light and makes it very clear to all involved that you are doing all you can to be ready to step straight into the role once another promotion comes up.
Make sure your manager know what career path you want to follow and try to get as much support from them as possible.
 
At a previous company I worked for (not in Ireland) I was told that most jobs advertised internally were only advertised as a formality, that it was already decided who was getting the job. And the managers hated it when random people applied because it just meant more paperwork for them. :D
 
Companies are finding it very hard to get IT staff at the moment, so another option is to just leave.

Certainly I would ask what the criteria was, and what recommendations can they give to help you reach that criteria. My spidey sense reckons there is more to you not getting the interviews that just not having the right IT skills...
 
Just another thing - are you telling them how much money you want before applying for the job?

I know of a similar situation - the girl couldn't understand how she wasn't offered the job. The problem was she was being too greedy. She wanted to keep roughly her salary (senior salary) when she moved to a more junior position in another department.
 
no salary is not disclosed and has'nt came into the equation just yet

i already got the job specification and meet alot of the skills already in the skills set --

there was a listing about a language but it is listed as not neccessary or a required skill-

in the past in prior reviews -we have already discussed my pathway and my own manager knows that i am interested in this job -and before xmas on my anual review it was even said pity u were out sick when we were hiring for another posting in the same department (at that time it was sep ) and i remember saying that those vacancies posts dont come around for another 2 - 3 years. so she knows i'd love that job -

as earlier postings say alot of this can be politics but
ill direct the questioning about how i can get a similar post like that in future - rather than why did'nt i get an interview
as its annoying /frustrating and to be honest yesterday i was alot more annoyed
 
See if you can have a chat with the decision maker (maybe hiring manager or maybe HR) over lunch or a coffee and seek specific feedback.
 
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