What is the fuss about whether someone is a presenter or a producer all about?

Brendan Burgess

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Why don't RTE just publish the Top 10 or Top 20 salaries, whether they are presenters, producers or grounds staff?

Seán Rocks' partner said she had been disadvantaged by his being classified as a producer and not as a presenter? How so?

His salary presumably was his salary and taxed whatever job title he had?

Or was there a different, more generous, pension scheme for presenters?

It was up to him to negotiate a deal and leave if he was not happy with it.
 
May have something to do with death in service? 3 x times salary?
Producer (independent) v presenter ( staff)?
 
Something to do with different pay scales for different roles as far as I know, which involves union negotiation.

Derek Mooney came under the spotlight as a producer (max salary €90,000), but as he earned multiples of that he was re-classified as a presenter.

I agree, just publish the salaries first, and their role next. Who knows, there could be a service officer or security guard on the pigs back of quadruple double-time for Sunday night shift at that place.
 
It wasn't RTE being transparent but getting confused by their own smoke and mirrors. They were deliberately doing it because they have to publish the presenters top 10 payments but not producers.

They will engage in similar shenanigans where they dont include payments to major RTE presenters if they present on an "independent" production even though it was commissioned by RTE.
 
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May have something to do with death in service? 3 x times salary?
Producer (independent) v presenter ( staff)?
It seems like the presenter payment was a "topup allowance" and so was not part of pensionable pay and therefore not included in the death in service calculation.

At least from reading between the lines of the Irish Times article on it.
 
I think that the pay of the top earners in RTE has nothing to do with the problems that RTE have.
I think that concentrating on that issue distracts from the deeper and more significant structural issues they have.
I think that this suits the Unions and the Civil Servants and the TD's on the Committee etc but it doesn't help RTE and in the longer term it will undermine the independence of the organisation.
 
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I think that the pay of the top earners in RTE has nothing to do with the problems that RTE have.
Well I think it has something to do with it, because for many years it appeared to be getting used as a benchmark for other aspects of spending on salaries across RTE, programming costs etc
But there are deeper issues for sure (discussion of which may be off topic for this thread so I'll pause for now)
 
for many years it appeared to be getting used as a benchmark for other aspects of spending on salaries across RTE, programming costs etc
That's exactly my point. RTE have an annual turnover of around €380 million a year. Their top 10 presenters get paid around €2.5 million combined. If they are losing money that's not the problem.
 
From an RTE report today



She believes his pension did not reflect the full scope of his 25-year career in RTÉ, despite Mr Rocks being made a permanent employee in 2019.

It doesn't seem to be about whether he is a presenter or a producer. It's about whether he had a permanent contract or not. His solution was to go and work for another station if RTE was not prepared to pay him a package which he thought he was worth.
 
It doesn't seem to be about whether he is a presenter or a producer. It's about whether he had a permanent contract or not. His solution was to go and work for another station if RTE was not prepared to pay him a package which he thought he was worth.
It should certainly give food for thought for RTE staff in similar situation to sort themselves out - either regularising things with RTE, another employer OR making additional provision for pension and life insurance themselves.

In this case, Sean Rocks had been permanent since 2019, as the RTE article states.
Before that, he was on fixed term contracts. It is unclear what the pension arrangements were for those contracts.
There's pieces of the puzzle emerging in different articles, sometimes the emphasis is on the death in service benefit, sometimes on the pension.
It is also unclear how the death in service benefit is calculated - current pensionable salary or some calculation based on pensionable salary over years of service.

He was receiving an "allowance" for presenting, and this allowance was not pensionable and not counted towards death in service benefit.
Normally the "allowance" would be a top-up for occasional presenting duties. He was the main presenter of RTE Arena radio programme since 2009 so I am guessing that it was actually a significant part of his remuneration.

It has emerged that he was being paid a producer salary and only had an additional allowance in respect of his presenting duties, which wasn’t included in his pensionable pay.

 
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