What are the Government really doing, to help the country move away from Diesel vehicles etc. ?

MrEarl

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Hi,

Does anyone know if Richard Bruton has rolled out a policy (or even, dare I suggest it, legislation) to enure that all Government Departments and State owned companies only buy electric vehicles, going forward ?​

It seems to me to be a fairly obviously one, if the government are supposed to be leading by example, and are serious about trying to meet 2030 targets. (cough * no one mention how far away we are from meeting 2020 targets, and the likely fines we're going to incur as a result * cough).

The Government could also go absolutely "mad" and:
  • ban the importation of second hand diesel vehicles (regardless of how late they'd be in doing this, better now than never),
  • remove the historic benefits to having diesel engine cars, such as cheaper road tax and fuel.

Notwithstanding the wonderful plan announced by Richard Bruton a couple of months ago, I'm not convinced that the Government are really doing anything even close to what they need to be doing, to help deal with the problem of our omissions levels, our over reliance on certain fossil fuels etc.

So, in addition to the above, my question to fellow members of AAM is this, what are the Government really doing, to help move the country away from Diesel vehicles etc ?
 

Zenith63

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More is certainly required to discourage diesel use where it is not really required, but there are fairly generous incentives in-place for electric vehicles to try and tempt people away from them -
  • €600 grant for home charger
  • 50-75% off tolls
  • €120 road tax
  • €5000 grant off a new EV
  • €5000 off VRT on a new or imported EV
  • 0% BIK on the first €50k
  • ACA to allow businesses write-off in year one
  • Small portion of the VAT can be reclaimed
  • Free on-street charging
 

odyssey06

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Think the free charging ended last month. I would not assume any of the other incentives to be permanent.
 

noproblem

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Personally I think buying an electric motor vehicle at the moment is bordering on insanity. Sure, the world and its mother knows all about the state of the environment and the trouble coming down the road, isn't it all over the media every second of every day and night so there can be no lies or mistruths whatsoever in that? Alas, the electric vehicle is in the baby stage, as are the parts and everything else involved in it. In a years time, there's be more known and they'll be a little bit better, same in a year after that, etc, etc, etc. So, how much is the vehicle you buy today worth in a couple of years time? Oh dear, it'll be out of date, so will its battery and everything else as well. Goverments and politicians are wonderful at grooming the public, media like doing it as well, the millenials and greens plus the snowflakes cuddle up to one another as well, keeps them warm and on the same wavelength, helps them shout louder and everything else our green friends in radio and television love as well. Result being, that's all you're going to hear in the positive sense. Bunkum and balderdash I say. Just wait until everyone is told, no more diesel or petrol vehicles can be sold, no more quick deliveries by lorries, no more , no more, no more, they'll shout and then they'll be bye bye daisy's. Si I say, go ahead buy your electric toy and look at its worthless value in a years time or thereabouts.

As for Zenith 63 and his above post with all the grants and vat back and free this that and the other? Oh my dear boy, what a shock you're in for when the powers that be have all you ducks in a row, that shock won't come from free electricity, but from an age old trick. Go on, have a guess? Thought you would, now go and put that in your pipe and have a good smoke! Enjoy.
 

Zenith63

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Think the free charging ended last month. I would not assume any of the other incentives to be permanent.
On-street chargers are still free, motorway fast chargers no longer are. But absolutely none of these are permanent, they’re incentives for early adopters while EVs are still too expensive to make economical sense for most people. Was just detailing one of the things the government is doing as MrEarl asked for...
 

RichInSpirit

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Diesel mightn't be the worst choice in terms of CO2. To the best of my knowledge it beats petrol on CO2 emissions when looked at from a MPG or litres per 100km point of view.
I know it scores badly from the NOx point of view. But even from this angle I was looking at Renaults website and some of their diesel engines are now Euro 6 which they claim only emit 50% of the NOx emissions of the previous Euro standard engines.
Also from looking at the Renault website, car manufacturers aren't really serious about selling electric cars to anyone who need to do much more than 250km without needing a charge.
 

losttheplot

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Renault may not be serious about selling electric cars to people who need to do more than 250km with out a charge because that's the Range of the older Zoe. Kia and Hyundai would happily cover you for 400km.
 
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