Question on PRSA AVCs…. apologies if this is a stupid question…
Tax on income for most high earners at the moment is 52% made up of income tax, USC, and PRSI. Let’s just say, for most high earners, tax on pension income at retirement is a similar rate, although I’m hoping it’s slightly lower.
Let’s say an employee has 2 million in a company pension scheme, and that is currently the limit. (negotiations ongoing to try to increase this).
If over a few years you invest €200,000 in a PRSA AVC and claim 40% (€80,000) back.
For simplicity, let’s say the PRSA AVC doesn’t go up in value. At retirement, you take the €200,000 back tax free.
This leaves your original 2 million company pension intact. However since you have not drawn from this 2 million to fund the €200,000 tax free lump sum, have you not pushed another €200,000 into the 52% income tax bracket and if so does that not negate the benefit of the PRSA AVC in the first place?
• The Entry: You only got 40% relief (Income Tax only—you do not get USC or PRSI relief on pension contributions in Ireland).
• The Exit: You suffer a 52% hit on drawdown via an Approved Retirement Fund (ARF) or annuity.
You essentially traded a 40% tax saving today for a 52% tax liability in the future.
Tax on income for most high earners at the moment is 52% made up of income tax, USC, and PRSI. Let’s just say, for most high earners, tax on pension income at retirement is a similar rate, although I’m hoping it’s slightly lower.
Let’s say an employee has 2 million in a company pension scheme, and that is currently the limit. (negotiations ongoing to try to increase this).
If over a few years you invest €200,000 in a PRSA AVC and claim 40% (€80,000) back.
For simplicity, let’s say the PRSA AVC doesn’t go up in value. At retirement, you take the €200,000 back tax free.
This leaves your original 2 million company pension intact. However since you have not drawn from this 2 million to fund the €200,000 tax free lump sum, have you not pushed another €200,000 into the 52% income tax bracket and if so does that not negate the benefit of the PRSA AVC in the first place?
• The Entry: You only got 40% relief (Income Tax only—you do not get USC or PRSI relief on pension contributions in Ireland).
• The Exit: You suffer a 52% hit on drawdown via an Approved Retirement Fund (ARF) or annuity.
You essentially traded a 40% tax saving today for a 52% tax liability in the future.