Thanks guys. The below is my real reason for asking.
If you can shed any light I'd be very grateful.
I was recently awarded a primary medical cert (as a driver) and I'm trying to figure out how much of a budget I have to work with.
I will be shopping in the used car market and my budget will be around 10k (plus vat & vrt)
The problem is, I don't know what this actually equates to in the real world. How much of my purchase will be refunded?
My question has 2 parts. VRT & VAT
(note: I've consulted the revenues website as well as citizens information and many other sources so please don't refer me to them. They are all quite vague and do not answer my questions)
1. VRT
Just for example..... I've seen a car for around €15,000. (right in line with revenue's omsp estimate)
I ran it through the revenue vrt calculator and it estimates vrt at €3,000.
(20% vrt rate on €15,000 estimated omsp)
Can I take this number to be accurate? Will revenue use this calculator alone or will they consider the price I paid.
Let's say (for arguments sake) I was a shrewd haggler, and I purchased the very same car for €4,000 ....
would my VRT rebate still be €3,000, because that's what the calculator says? Or will it be 20% of €4,000?
2. VAT
Revenue (Monaghan office) told me that I would also be entitled to a VAT refund on a used car, but when I asked him to elaborate he dismissed me and told me to "go ask a garage, they'll tell you". It was Friday at 3:30 and I was an inconvenience.
I've spoken to many car dealers recently and they all (but one*) told me emphatically that this was not true. "There is no vat on used cars and vat cannot be reclaimed."
Which is this true? Can I claim back residual VAT on a used car?
If it's true, how is this calculated?
Going back to my fictional car....
I buy a car for €15,000
will the 23% be deducted from this?
or will the VRT be deducted first....
15,000 - 3,000 = 12,000
Then, vat be deducted from this value.
*The one car dealer who didn't, referred to "vat qualifying" cars.
i.e. cars that have never had vat handled on them. Such as fleet cars, ex-rentals, etc. which have never been privately owned.
These cars come with vat invoices and are tax deductible.
Any truth to this?
Many thanks in advance guys.
Update:
I went to irishstatutebook.ie
and found this:
"8. (1) Where a person satisfies the Revenue Commissioners that that person is a disabled driver and has borne or paid value-added tax, vehicle registration tax or residual vehicle registration tax in respect of a vehicle or in respect of the adaptation of a vehicle which"
This refers to
1) VAT
2) VRT
3) Residual VRT
There is no mention of residual VAT so I assume that the guy from Revenue was mistaken.
This goes back to the 'vat-qualifying' vehicles. Surely if one had a vat receipt, one could reclaim that vat under the scheme.