Unions on the run now.Would you now pass the picket?

Ron Burgundy said:
Why yes, how do i know the needs of someone on 25k when i earn 155k and live a different life with no finanical worries. Do you think that these guys have a clue how the average person lives when they get paid 4 or 5 times the average industrial wage ??
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Did it ever occur to you that they might have started out at this level?
 
YOBR i haven't seen one comment here in favour of the unions.....shall we vote ( but if we lose we can always try something else )
 
Ron Burgundy said:
But before you sign up to total fitness you of course will ask what do i get for my money ? Also will you get a vote on hoe total fitness is run ???

Oh and the dail bar is nothing special.........
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Yes, you can ask about value for money, but it might be different things to different people. No I wouldn't expect you get a vote.
 
dockingtrade said:
YOBR any comment on the fat cat culture and the union leader being part of this culture they are so critical off
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Yes, and this is my last comment.

You get what you voted for. The people of Ireland have voted consistently voted for the parties that introduced Social Partnership and in the last two elections voted in the party that brought in benchmarking
 
Sunny said:
Total Fitness isn't involved in negotiations on where to spend my taxes.
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And it doesn’t claim to have a social agenda to help the poor.
The unions pushed for Benchmarking while forwarding an agenda which was against direct tax increases. This meant that Benchmarking had to be paid for through indirect taxes. Indirect taxes disproportionately affect the poor so in practice union policy was to redistribute wealth upward from the poor to the middle classes (their members). At the same time they continued to spout their disingenuous clap-trap about helping the poor. What a bunch of complete and utter hypocrites.
 
YOBR said:
Yes, and this is my last comment.

You get what you voted for. The people of Ireland have voted consistently voted for the parties that introduced Social Partnership and in the last two elections voted in the party that brought in benchmarking
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whats that got to do with fat cat union leaders
 
Purple said:
And it doesn’t claim to have a social agenda to help the poor.
The unions pushed for Benchmarking while forwarding an agenda which was against direct tax increases. This meant that Benchmarking had to be paid for through indirect taxes. Indirect taxes disproportionately affect the poor so in practice union policy was to redistribute wealth upward from the poor to the middle classes (their members). At the same time they continued to spout their disingenuous clap-trap about helping the poor. What a bunch of complete and utter hypocrites.
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Yes, but the people voted twice for benchmarking, they must have liked the idea.
 
YOBR said:
Yes, but the people voted twice for benchmarking, they must have liked the idea.
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Some did.....mayde those who got it and does who would vote FF evenn if Bertie shot their mother:D

Now Mr. Begg go earn your wages.......
 
YOBR said:
Yes, but the people voted twice for benchmarking, they must have liked the idea.
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Maybe it was because the alternative also supported the Polit Bureau (Partnership) and would have included Joan Burton?

BTW, does anyone know if the Labour Party gets funding directly from the unions?
 
YOBR said:
Everything, I would say.
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im lost on your responses to this.

Ok , do you see the top union leaders (left wing socialist) as FAT CATS?
when you add all their income up (considering the unemployment rate and state of the economy)
 
Purple said:
Maybe it was because the alternative also supported the Polit Bureau (Partnership) and would have included Joan Burton?
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Come on, give the electorate some credit, maybe they just liked the idea, you know the way the Irish electorate like to scruitinise the detail in the various party political manifeto's rather than just vote along civil war lines, or are influenced by gombeens who canvass on local issues or who "sort out" planning for them. No, we have a sophisticated electorate who know their own minds, just look at all the intelligent comment on AAM for evidence :rolleyes:
 
dockingtrade said:
im lost on your responses to this.

Ok , do you see the top union leaders (left wing socialist) as FAT CATS?
when you add all their income up (considering the unemployment rate and state of the economy)
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It very simple, the Irish people through their voting choices have copperfastened the social partnership process (and the positions of unions in it) over the last 20 years. The fat cats issue is a red herring..
 
YOBR said:
It very simple, the Irish people through their voting choices have copperfastened the social partnership process (and the positions of unions in it) over the last 20 years. The fat cats issue is a red herring..
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But its the union leaders saying the fat cats should pay. Is someone on 155k plus expenses one of the fat cats or salt of the earth working man ??

Did they take a pay cut ??
 
YOBR said:
It very simple, the Irish people through their voting choices have copperfastened the social partnership process (and the positions of unions in it) over the last 20 years. The fat cats issue is a red herring..
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So you won't answer the question...
That leaves people free to draw their own conclusions
 
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