Sorry, a bit of confusion here. When Cervelo saidI was talking about the official languages selected by the EU states.
I thought we were discussing the EU Cross Border Enforcement Directive http://etsc.eu/faq-eu-cross-border-enforcement-directive, which allows Member States where a specified traffic offence was committed to pursue and fine the drivers of cars registered in other EU Member States when they commit such traffic offences.Just wondering if I got a speeding ticket in France does this rule mean I will get a ticket in English and Irish or is the Irish part something I would have to request ??
excellent Planck thank you. Just to clarify my appeal letter challenged the *size* of the fine versus EU equivalents and incomes. I accept I must pay *a* fine.
So I asked for a reduced fine.
Maybe theres no chance but I made my points in the letter.
I think the OP is already in possession of his Honar Rechnung, or possible even his first Mahnung.You are dealing with a Civil Law court not a Common Law court as in Ireland, that means there is no such thing as extenuating circumstances, the letter of the law is applied. Your only defence could have been that you were not driving and that you were able to supply them with the name of the driver. You did not do this, but instead wasted their time with a nonsense appeal, meaning you should probably expect they will have upped the total to the max.... I'd expect the next reminder will be north of €1,000 and possibly as high as twice the original fine, say €1,300.
This is not going to go away, because that is not the Swiss way. If left unpaid it will continue to collect further charges and penalties, of which you will be reminded. Eventually it will be come a criminal matter.
I'm still struggling to see the validity or relevance of the "shudda cudda wudda" defence. If you were Swiss and were earning a Swiss income you could afford the fine, but you're not so they should reduce it to suit your income as you can't afford it; if you could you wudda paid it. And you can't speak French so they shudda sent you a translation and they're not in the EU but if they were, you cudda done x, y or z.
You broke the speed limit according to your numbers by c. 29%. In Australia, which is substantially a common law jurisdiction, the penalties for certain traffic offences / moving violations are imposed at the point of detection. Your vehicle can be impounded (for speeding), your licence can be suspended (for speeding) and fines can be imposed - there is no appeal. The fines take no account of means or other circumstances. You attend the designated State office or court and pay up within the specified time or the penalties may increase, up to and including imprisonment.
Pay the fine or the increased financial penalty before it becomes a millstone around your neck. I hope your son recovers fully and gets to enjoy more Swiss holidays at the discounted EU wages rates.
I am guessing you were caught twice outside built up areas doing between 16-20kph, and once doing between 11-15kph.
Any faster and you would have received a summons.
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