Sony HX750 DVR - Guideplus/Host Channel problem

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Apologies for posting another techie question which should probably be directed at a specialist forum, but seeing as the Sony HX750 DVR seems to be a popular enough model in Ireland I was hoping to find someone who has successfuly set up their Guideplus on it. I managed to do this fine on another model a few months back but the Guideplus set-up is quite different on the Sony. I'm fairly certain I have everything right up to the point where I choose my host channel settings. (eg I've told it I'm in the UK, I've put in a Belfast postal code, I've selected NTL Cable and Sky Digital in the settings, even though I only have NTL, etc. The DVR is able to change channels when it sends a signal in the set-up process, which suggests everything's fine up to this point).When I go to the host channel set-up section I'm asked to choose a 'Source', either Tuner, Ext Rec 1 or Ext Rec 2. I actually haven't a clue what I'm meant to choose here, but I've tried all three! I know I have to use ITV as my host channel - when it asks me to choose a 'Programme number' do I put in 3, ie the position where I've put ITV on my DVR/TV? If not, what number do I put in? If there's any one out there who's solved this problem I'd love to hear the solution - thanks!
 
hi Shrimp - don't have an answer on this, but I would like to know if you got this sorted. We just got the HX750 DVR also but haven't managed to set up the guideplus or timer recorder yet! I've had a look at the website but am none the wiser on how it all works.
 
NTL user in Dublin: I bought Sony HX750 last week. Hooked up scarts as they were on the old vcr. Checked the net about ntl and guideplus. Used belfast code and uk country. No joy. Rang NTL, they never heard of guideplus. Changed around the ext scarts at the back (i.e. scart from ntl with tag 'vcr' should be inserted into Line1/Decoder on back of HX750. Then guideplus recognised the code for Belfast and changed the channel for me in the small box on top left corner. Once that is recognised, stick the tiny set top box controller on the pace box and try and keep the HX on standby in order to allow guideplus update. Every five or six hours, the guideplus updated itself. It took about 18 hours in total. BBC1, BBC2 and Channel 4 were the only channels automatically configured to guideplus a day later. You need to go to guideplus editor to change the source and channel numbers to get RTE1 and RTE 2 etc to record properly. Keep trying- it will work.
 
thanks norbert, will try this out over the weekend & see if we can get it working! there have been threats of sending the new dvr back to the shop such is the frustration with it!!:D
 
The UK code i used was:- BT71NN
There should be a space left over - don't worry about it.
 
Blushing madly here, discovered in the end that the problem was that the g-link sensor thingie wasn't close enough to the NTL box, so that's why Guideplus wasn't coming through on the DVR. Working perfectly now.Cinders: I'll come back tomorrow with the exact set-up for you, hang on in there, it WILL work!
PS It is possible to get RTE1 and RTE2 listings for Guideplus (and properly updated every day), you just need to lie in the settings and say you have Sky Digital - honest, it works! Again, I'll come back tomorrow with the exact settings.
 
thanks Shrimp, would appreciate the update as still haven't got it working. :( (I've threatend to invite my 7yr old nephew to come over & set it up for me as its obvious we are no longer techie savvie!!:) )
 
I have a Sony HX725 and was also struggling to get the guideplus to work properly. I just have basic NTL and no external receiver or set top box (STB). Thanks to Norbet and Cinders I am now able to get all (including the RTE's) the basic NTL channel info by using the UK code BT71NN and telling it I have Sky Digital. It seems you can tell guideplus anything and it doesn't really check, it just needs these parameters to send you the right channel info.

I told it my post code was BT71NN, I had an external receiver (on line 3) and that I had sky digital. I also manually set up the host channel to ITV or tuner 3 in my case. After setting it all up I left it overnight and all the info arrived along with a lot of other channel info. Then I went back in guideplus and using the editor I switched off the channels I didn't have and corrected where my channels were on the tuner. It had set them up as external receiver 101 etc because it thought I had an external receiver.

Now, at long last, I can use the Sony EPG (GuidePlus) to record all I need.
 
Hi NTL Dublin user.
From the posts below can i assume it IS possible to set up a DVD HDD using NTL to use Guide Plus +.

Ive just bought Sony rdrHX750.

I have NTL - I have plugged that into line one of Sony Unit
I have connected TV (Smart Link to Line 3)
I have connected NTL analogue to RF in of Sony HDD

I have gone into set up of Guide plus on the sony Unit

Oh yeagh rang NTL and asked about Guide Plus + - Didnt understand what I was asking and then said they only support their own boxes etc.

ANyway apologies in advance if this Post sounds too basic.

Set it as follows

Language English
Country UK
Post Code BT71NN
External Receiver 1 NTL - Pace - LINE 2 (doesnt give me an option to set it to line 1)
Ext Rec 2 none
Ext Rec 3 none

Then go into Host Channel Set up

Set to automatic

Any ideas why its asking that decoder is connected to line 2 when its connected to Line 1
when i pick NTL box for ext rec . Always asks me about channel 12. NTL channels here in dublin are all three digits.

I Suppose im picking at straws that u can get guid Plus working here in dublin with NTL.

Thanks for any help
 
On the main guide plus screen, highlight 'Grid'. Then move across the screen to the extreme right to 'Editor'. All the individual channels should be listed. You should be able to see RTE at the very bottom of the list. Highlight the source of RTE and change it to 'Tuner' and select the appropriate channel. e.g. 01 if it is the first channel on your video/DVD. Then when you go back to RTE through the Sony, the name of the programme should be shown for a few seconds. Do this to all the available NTL channels and cut down on the clutter of unwanted channels by turning off the ones that are not available to you in the editor e.g. Channel 5.
 
Hi Norbert

Thanks for the reply.

When i go over to editor I only have the following

BBC1
BBC2
ITVNI
CHANNEL 4
Channel 5

Ive switchd channel 5 off in Editor. Im not at the box now but maybe there is a scroll bar in editor that I have missed by a mistake. ANy other help appreciated.
 
Sounds like it's working but only giving you the channels for NTL Northern Ireland. When you say you have NTL is it basic NTL analogue or NTL digital and through an external receiver?


You may just need to tell it that you have Sky Digital. From memory, after you set the post code and external receiver you have to tell it the cable provider. Regardless of what you have tellit Sky Digital and answer yes to everyhting after that. Then go to the setup section of guide plus and set the host channel to whatever channel ITV is on. Then leave it overnight with the HDD in standby and NOT unplugged. When you check guideplus you chould see a lot of channels and the RTE's will be at th end. Go int the editor switch off the ones you don't want and fixe the channel on the ones you keep, they will be set up for an external receiver.
 
Hi PetC

Thanks for ur Post.

I have NTL Digital via NTl pace box (old model big box).

I have connected this into line 1 as its marked as decoder.
Im a bit confused why when setting external decoder it only seems to accept line 2 as Im sure this is going to cuase me problems if i want the Sony unto to record automatically from NTL digital.

Thanks again
 
MarkIreland,

That's as far as I can bring you. I have a HX725 which has line 1 as the TV out and line 3 as the decoder in. My line 2 is a component output. All I can suggest is you check the the cabling again or check the scart cable that you are using. I'm not an expert on scart cables but there are ones that only have 15 of the pins wired and ones with 21 pins wired. You may need to have 21 pins wired as the sony will need to communicate back to the NTL box and not just accept a signal in. All I can think of at the moment.
 
Thanks

In basic set up I changed line 1 from decoder to Video and started to get NTL STB staions.

Also set external decoder to line and set it to PACE NTL.

Switched off for a few minutes and back on and saw that ALL staions now there but no programme info. CHecked this morning as thout it would download over night , when i looked this morning all stations gone again.

Two steps forward one stap back....
 
MarkIreland,

It can talk up to 24hrs to get all the info. Make sure it's left on standby overnight. Did you manually set the host channel to ITV or UTV?
 
When set on Automatic it picked up ITVuls, but when i looked at ity this am seemd to haev lost it. Will check this evening
 
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