Sophrosyne
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We can all put a hardship spin on most things (like the "cattle boat" to england like you were being shipped to Auschwitz) but both you and I started work with the realistic expectation that we could buy a home.
You didn't get a year out in Australia but you are getting a retirement in Spain and wherever else you feel like going. You may have contributed to a pension all your life but if it is a State pension then you certainly didn't come anywhere close to paying for it. The parents who funded the three months in Australia or the USA? Their kids are now paying for their retirement, and will be paying for it long after those parents are dead, so it turns out it was a good investment.
That free ride into relatively good employment in Ireland, that doesn't include the ability to buy a home and probably won't include a State pension. Maybe it's not as good as you think.
Nor has it anything to do with the "crash" (the crash actually helped housing affordability for a while and still is dong so with ridiculously low interest rates).
1.(a) I presume you never boarded a train to catch the "cattle" boat in Rosslare in the 1960's. Both were an experience. Neither was the experience of 1st Class on a UAE Airbus. I'd love to see a modern day teenager being able to time-travel back and experience travel from Ireland to the UK which is nothing like travel today.
(b) You eventually arrived in the UK and travelled onto your destination. Mostly the Irish arrived in London, hoped to find accommodation after spending some time with relations. If you hadn't a drink problem before you left Ireland the chances were you'd have drink problems in the UK. Believe me the publicity pertaining to No Dogs, No Blacks, No Irish was true.
(c) Many Irish worked on the "lump" system. You got paid on completion of the job which usually ran into weeks. There was a good chance that you'd would be ripped off too and got much less than you thought you would. It wasn't only the dishonest Brits that ripped us off, it was dishonest Irish.
Young people in the 1960s struggled to overcome the obstacles in their way and took the opportunities that were offered to them. Young people today face their own obstacles and opportunities.
Todays youth would probably find the issues of the 1960s more challenging than you did, because they were not reared in that time.
I have no doubt that a person who was young in the 1960s would be very challenged by the world of todays young.
To my mind the biggest shift is that education is now more widely available, and that is a challenge for individuals as well as an opportunity.
I'm fully acquainted with what you are trying to say. But, I can inform anybody looking in the youth of today would have capitulated when faced with a fraction of the problems of the 1960's.
As for education today I reckon it is wasted on most.;
FOT sorta makes himself clear today. He wants SF in Government but wouldn't himself vote for them because of their past and because they are controlled by leading IRA figures.I really don’t think Fintan is advocating a vote for Sinn Fein
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