mandelbrot
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Your friend's son is not a law abiding citizen. He is a tax evader and he is stealing from all of us. I hope that Revenue throw the book at him.
Does it make you feel better for making such a sweeping statement when you know nothing much about the person concerned.
Greta is the typical example of the shoulder shrugging attitude, "Ah sure, so what if he does a few nixers and pockets the cash. more power to him..." etc etc.
The so what is that the size of the black economy in Ireland is alarming, have a look at this; http://www.independent.ie/business/irish/the-black-economy--is-back-in-business-1917172.html
So, the €6bn that the Government is trying to find in the budget is in the Black Economy...
So Greta, if/when you're gnashing your teeth at the prospect of whatever hardship the forthcoming budget imposes on you, please remember that all of that money would already be in the coffers if no-one was willing to engage in the black market. Maybe then you won't be smiling about a "cute whore" who manages to feather his nest and dodge a few bob in tax.
However, if this guy did evade some tax, in the circumstances it is extremely unlikely that the Revenue will be able to prove it, and no amount of "teeth-gnashing" will change that.
As far as I know, it works the other way round. He has to be able to prove that his income is legitimate.
I live in a fairly rural area and it is common knowledge that they are loads of people working in the black market doing a day here and there while on the dole, the attitude being sure how on earth can a family manage on the dole these days, they need a day or two along with it. It is something that is ingrained into the Irish psyche and you daren't complain or you would be breaking the social codes.
Just to reiterate a point that I made earlier, most casual work or 'odd job' situations involve an obligation on the part of the employer to operate PAYE. The responsibility for this obligation lies with the employer, not the employee.
If no tax has been paid on a part of this person's earnings, it is likely that others, and not the worker in question, are liable for any tax shortfall.
I would appreciate it if you refrain from personal attacks on me. As far as I understand, this is a forum for financial advice, not a place to take out at other people your personal frustrations with whatever may be wrong with Ireland or the world.
The OP asked a question - did their friend's son have anything to worry about re Revenue audit letter. I merely answered their question, saying that probably he doesn't. At no time did I express an admiration for him or any tax evader. Also OP did not state that he ever evaded any tax. I think it is natural for anybody, however tax-abiding, to be worried at getting an audit letter from the Revenue.
However, if this guy did evade some tax, in the circumstances it is extremely unlikely that the Revenue will be able to prove it, and no amount of "teeth-gnashing" will change that.
Dont worry Greta, the IMF will be here in a few days they will sort it all out
Thank you for feedback- I hardly expect that 55k accumulated over 5 years equates- from predominantly his paye job amounts to some big 'fraud' with Revenue! Would appear that Revenue have little or nothing to keep themselves occupied these days... so hence chasing cents! Regardless of the outcome for this young man, I would envisage that max payable with levies/ penalties if anything will amount to less that 1 or 2k for the 5 years!
This is a very sweeping statement. How can you be certain that PAYE was not applied to the 'odd jobs' highlighted earlier?
Employers are obliged to operate PAYE on all employments, including part-time or casual employments.
Does it make you feel better for making such a sweeping statement when you know nothing much about the person concerned.
Okay then, I apologise for having a different opinion to you.
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