replacing laptop hardrive

I have a desktop with the Winows XP Dvd and that gives me no trouble if I want to replace my hard drive but my laptop has an OEM installation with a reset disk and this worries me if I ever had a problem. What can someone do about replacing a hard drive when the operating system is on a hidden partition to ensure they have the legal copy of windows whch they originally have paid for ? It does not seem straightforward.

I am completely lost on this thread. The tech support person mentioned an OEM installation so does that mean that the Windows disk I have is useless for a new hard drive?
 
How did you get the data off a failed drive?

I paid for it to be done by a specialist firm on the north side of Dublin.
The drive was so far gone PC Peripherals in Sandyford couldn't copy it.
I had used the family PC for about a week, but I still needed a final solution.
I was running my entire office from my laptop - extended downtime wasn't an option
Sending the HD to the UK was going to cost me thousands and take well over a week by all accounts.

I looked up firms who did hard drive recovery and chose; -

Critical Data Services
Unit 719
Northwest Business Park
Ballycoolin
Dublin 15
LoCall: 1890 237 100
t: +353 (0)1 861 2280
f: +353 (0)1 507 8217
e: mailto:[email protected]
w: www.criticaldata.ie

I got a much better price from CDS than the UK options.
It took less than a week and they sourced and fitted the new HD.
They also copied the retrieved data onto an external HD.
I would have preferred to pay less, but they did the business.
They were very professional and kept me well-informed at all times.

HTH

ONQ
 
yeah those applications always default on the most compatible option (FAT or FAT32 depending on age of the machine). The reason why you still had 60GB even though the new drive was 80GB is because the tool you used to format the drive was made specifically for those model PCs, which had only the 60GB hard drives as spares.
You can defintely reach the wanted result (80GB+) but you'd have to have a look at the original config first and try a couple times.
Alternatively, Im sure someone else has done it and has posted on the internet at some stage.

<nods>

I specified the FAT 32 formatting when ordering for two reasons:
(i) to allow me to run legacy applications I had used on my Windows 95 OSR2 PC, and
(ii) to ensure total deletion of sensitive client data without any alternative data streams in NTFS compromising that solution.
Worked well, the only "ghost" files and folder names that were restored by the bit-by-bit data retrieval were those I hadn't specifically wiped.

In relation to achieving the total capacity, there is a bit of a Catch-22 according to CDS.
There is a tool you can use, but it doesn't seem to be usable from a running hard drive.
It has to operate at very low level on the heads and boot sectors.
[I'm now well beyond my level of expertise, but this is how I understand it]

It seems the only way to do it is run it from another HD running as primary boot.
The original master is run as secondary or slave [the laptop can support two HDs].
That way the OS isn't formatting itself as it works, if I have this right.

No one could say whether or not this was going to result in data loss.
More importantly I had already lost a few weeks of uptime.
I left it and bought the external HD backup.
It uses the Firewire 400 port on the IBM.
It is also compatible with Win2K SP4, USB II and the FAT 32 filesystems.
Its a Western Digital MyBook if anyone's interested.

FWIW

ONQ.
 
I am completely lost on this thread. The tech support person mentioned an OEM installation so does that mean that the Windows disk I have is useless for a new hard drive?


most likely it wont, but again you should first have a look at the partition table of the hard drive to understand if there really is a hidden partition used for bios. if there isnt then you have a chance of it to work.

the way OEM winxp disks work is by using SLP to 'read' the bios of the PC and 'validate' that the specific machine is allowed to run it.
if this is the case tho, SLP is only implemented on the firmware itself and wouldnt work on an older bios partition.

hope this helps
 
I will try and find something for you. need a bit of time tho..


OK i kinda found something.. have a look at this :
[broken link removed]
I know it does not really answer your question but should give you a hint on the technology of the time.
Will give more links as soon as I can

Thats talking about the firmware on the HD controller. Not that its on the HD itself.

Even if what your talking about is possible. I don't think any of this is relevant to a computer built in the last decade. I would bet money that the OP doesn't have to worry about any of that.

All the OEM disks do is, if its a Dell disk check that its a Dell computer. In rare cases it will check that its a Specific Dell model.
 
You guys are really making something so simple as making a cup of tea sound like its climbing everest. Swap the disk for a new one. Takes 5 mins. Try installing from the OEM disk. Either it works or it doesn't you'll know in another 5/10 mins. If it doesn't work no problem. Simply put the old drive back and no harm done. Its a no brainer. If your near D.4/15 drop me a PM and I'll do it for you over a coffee. I have spare drives you could test with.
 
Thats talking about the firmware on the HD controller. Not that its on the HD itself.

Even if what your talking about is possible. I don't think any of this is relevant to a computer built in the last decade. I would bet money that the OP doesn't have to worry about any of that.

All the OEM disks do is, if its a Dell disk check that its a Dell computer. In rare cases it will check that its a Specific Dell model.


dude.. whatever you say.
 
Thanks everone for your replies.

I will get a new hard drive and and try and install Windows from the OEM disk and hopefully it will work. If it doesn't,AlbacoreA I will shout you a coffee :)

Now, another question. I know I need a SATA hard drive but how do I know if it is 2.5 or 3.5?
 
Only 2.5 fit in a laptop. You might need some very small philip screwdrivers. So just have them handy too.
 
Thanks for your help. I successfully installed the new hard drive and installed windows with no problems.
 
Nice1

Support lines ha! Never trust them.

Drill a few holes through the old drive before dumping it.
 
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