Moneymakeover Recently retired and in need of investment advice for some extra income.

I don't know the intricacies.

I assumed it was separate from their Occupational Pension and could be managed differently, but maybe not.
 
Very interesting posts and a lot of food for thought, thanks so much. I will need to read them all again to make sure I understand everything, as already pointed out I know very little about finance.

Very interesting point about spending my savings. I guess like a lot of people I'm a bit wary of that but I can see the reasoning. I would agree though about not needing to budget.

I also see the reasoning behind not maturing the AVC, however it's in the process of being matured so I think I'll run with it. It will bring my income up to 44K so maybe I won't need to be doing much contract work as I'll be into a higher tax bracket. And that is something I hadn't thought of.

@Bronte, lol re the gallivanting.:) But it's one of life's big pleasures, imo and I'd dispute a stop to the gallop after 80. My mother still travels in her 90s. So I'll be doing it as long as health permits. And no I don't rent out the place in Spain. That's hassle I neither want nor need.
 
I assumed it was separate from their Occupational Pension and could be managed differently, but maybe not.
I also see the reasoning behind not maturing the AVC, however it's in the process of being matured so I think I'll run with it.
All occupational pension schemes relating to the same employment, including AVCs, must be taken at the same time.
 
keep you occupied, and stop you travelling.
eh? Why does the OP need to be "stopped" from travelling?

And rent your house out for the winter.
Not a good plan given the current legislation.

House, how many bedrooms, location, city town? How about the rent a room tax free income, especially as your off gallivanting often…
Rent a room would be worth thinking about; someone to take care of Fido as well.
...could you sell your house and live with your mother?
Why does the OP need to do this? And who wants to live with their parent in their 60s?

I'd love to conduct a social experiment & post the same details but with the inference that the OP is a man & see if the responses would be different.
 
I am leaning towards investing something in one of the Zurich prismas. Could someone give me a brief explanation of how the tax works please. I'm aware of deemed disposal but is that not after 8 years? Do you only pay tax on the gains and how often must you do this? Yearly? On maturity? If I invested, say 50K, in a prisma 4 for 5 years, roughly how much could I expect to make? Thanks.
 
I am leaning towards investing something in one of the Zurich prismas.
Better decision than buying maybe 50 different shares to spread your risk.
Could someone give me a brief explanation of how the tax works
All the tax is handled by Zurich.
You just deposit your money into the fund and withdraw any amounts you want all tax paid by Zurich.
 
If I invested, say 50K, in a prisma 4 for 5 years, roughly how much could I expect to make?
That depends on how the investment funds perform over time.
You could make a profit or a loss.

You can check past performance on Zurich's website, but you have no guarantee that future years will be better or worse than past years.
 
I am leaning towards investing something in one of the Zurich prismas. Could someone give me a brief explanation of how the tax works please. I'm aware of deemed disposal but is that not after 8 years? Do you only pay tax on the gains and how often must you do this?
38% on any gain every 8 years or when you sell units. The life assurance company takes care of all of this. There's some information here and probably in other threads.
You could use an execution only broker if you don't need advice and want to get the lowest charges. E.g.
 
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@ S class, when you say profit or loss do you mean that you could lose some of your capital? How strong a possibility is this? Out of your invested 50K, could you lose 5K?10K? That is the sort of thing I would be afraid of.
 
when you say profit or loss do you mean that you could lose some of your capital?

There are four types of assets:

(1) cash
(2) bonds
(3) shares
(4) property

Only holding asset (1) cash means that the principal is guaranteed, but the real value may fall over time due to inflation.

The other assets offer higher returns, with some added risk.
 
INCOME [from occupational pension and OAP]
€40.000 gross per year

EXTRA YEARLY INCOME
Approx €1.500 - €2.000 net from contract work [this is open to me for the next few years]

Zurich AVC/ARF Approx €40.000 in the fund, currently in the process of being matured. Planning to take about €4.000 per year, less tax
My wife's situation is somewhat similar to this.

This is what she is doing....

She makes the maximum allowable PRSA contributions from her approximate 2k earnings. This maximum amount is €1525.

She gets tax relief @ 40% on this amount.

When she ceases this extra employment she will take benefits from her PRSA. 25% tax free lump sum and add the remainder to her ARF.


In your case you could do as follows each year.
(Take your extra employment as 2k.)

Open a PRSA and contribute €1525.

Drawdown €3525 from your ARF.

You now have total income of €45525

Your €1525 PRSA contributions will get tax relief at 40%.
This reduces your taxable income to 44k. You have now maximised your 20% tax band.

Do similar to this each year until you cease the extra employment. Then take the benefits from the PRSA.
25% tax free lump sum and balance into your existing ARF.

€1545 pension contribution.webp
 
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@S class, thanks so much for that, that seems very smart.

@Protocol, thanks so much. So do I understand that my 50K would be guaranteed? That worse case scenario it would make nothing , but that my 50K would be safe?
 
The cash fund would guarantee your 50k.
But if you are afraid to take on any risk you might be better off with this plan.
If you don't want to take a big risk with your current savings but want them to be doing something you've the option of some of the online savers with AIB or BOI. You can open 4 and 2 accounts respectively with the banks and put in €1k per account per month with AIB and €2.5k per month per account with BOI. These return 3% minus DIRT for 12 months. Just as an example if you did that with those you'd be putting €9k a month into savings across them and that's €108k for the year at 3% for €3,240 interest before DIRT. And that's guaranteed.
 
eh? Why does the OP need to be "stopped" from travelling?

Not a good plan given the current legislation.

Rent a room would be worth thinking about; someone to take care of Fido as well.
Why does the OP need to do this? And who wants to live with their parent in their 60s?

I'd love to conduct a social experiment & post the same details but with the infer
It was a joke about the travelling, off with her, but it does cost. We have a man on another thread on a probably nine month renovation project, he has 3 months in the parents home and could rent the other six months off Acequoin, some people only want short term. On yet another thread we have a man in mid 30’s moved back home… rent a room could be the solution, and there’s plenty only want Monday after work to Friday morning in the capital.
 
The cash fund would guarantee your 50k.
Which fund are you referring to? In the context of Zurich Prisma:
the lowest risk fund seems to be Prisma Low:
And the fund fact sheet says:


Warning: The value of your investment may go down as well as up.
Having said all that, in order to do better than deposit returns (which could be nil or even negative in real terms after tax and inflation) some investment risk has to be taken.
 
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