crabbybear
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Sorry Purple, but I will take pleasure in some public sector people having their pay cut especially teachers and the highly paid adminers. Sorry about that !
What you get paid for the work you do should have nothing to do with your financial obligations, if an employer is paying his workforce more than he can afford it's not his responsibility that his employees spend more than they can afford when it comes to cutting back.
Moaning that you can't afford the mortgage is not justification for higher wages, demonstrating that you are worth what you are paid is more relevant
This is of course why the Govt pulled back on the unpaid leave proposal. Regardless of the financial savings, it didn't meet the 'pound of flesh'/visible pain criteria for IBEC and others.Sorry Purple, but I will take pleasure in some public sector people having their pay cut especially teachers and the highly paid adminers. Sorry about that !
Could'nt agree more.This is of course why the Govt pulled back on the unpaid leave proposal. Regardless of the financial savings, it didn't meet the 'pound of flesh'/visible pain criteria for IBEC and others.
Could'nt agree more.
A lot of people don't seem to appreciate either that the unions will now refuse to negotiate on any aspect of reform including redeployment , job cuts , overtime rates , extension of the teacher's working week etc.
Not to mention the question of strikes which now seem inevitable.
One of any Unions main aims is to protect the terms and conditions of it's members.So basically, they didn't get their own way for the first time in years and so therefore will throw a tantrum and sulk.
Very mature behaviour. But then, what else do we expect?
Strange that. I take it you are at the lower end of the PS pay scale?Its a bit ironic really as under the unions proposal it was shaping up that I'd have a bigger cut in gross pay in 2010 under their scheme, than what Cowan seemed to be suggesting last night on the news!
Strange that. I take it you are at the lower end of the PS pay scale?
Could'nt agree more.
A lot of people don't seem to appreciate either that the unions will now refuse to negotiate on any aspect of reform including redeployment , job cuts , overtime rates , extension of the teacher's working week etc.
Not to mention the question of strikes which now seem inevitable.
I'm going to make the bold prediction that there won't be any more major strikes after the budget. Members don't have the stomach for it.
In fairness Sandrat, I work with and know a huge variety of people in the Public Service. Some voted 'no' and a lot voted 'yes', but I wouldn't think there was a particular 'kind' of person who voted for the strike. There were all kinds of situations and considerations that people took into account. Also, I think the media hate campaign actually annoyed a lot of people who had voted 'no' to strikes last year into voting 'yes' this year.
I think you underestimate the extreme anger of the public service.
Obviously the Unions will wait until they see the details in the budget before considering what action they should take,obviously they will be driven by the reaction of their members many of whom are extremely angry at the moment.Its a done deal. Pay will be cut. The unions have failed in meeting their objectives. I think members will come to their senses in the new year and just get on with it.
I think members will come to their senses in the new year and just get on with it.
Well if the PS won't reform, and there's no room for negotiation, it will be more pay cuts next year. They leave the government no choice.
Choose your poison.
I think you underestimate the extreme anger of the public service.
They can only go to that well so often.Well if the PS won't reform, and there's no room for negotiation, it will be more pay cuts next year. They leave the government no choice.
Choose your poison.
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