Brendan Burgess
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Okay. It would be interesting to see the increase in that as well over the same period.No you don't need to get better, you move to Invalidity pension if it's permanent.
As far as I know disability allowance (which any of us could need to avail of) comes from PRSI. However I don't think you need to have made any PRSI payments to avail of it?
I remember in another thread I asked why our PRSI fund was being drained when our COAP and unemployment benefit didn't get that close to the overall figure being paid into PRSI. They answer some poster gave was disability.
If there is large scale abuse of disability then it'd be one of the reasons that COAP pension age is being delayed and payment levels impossible to predict.
Perhaps it would be better if disability was only covered by PRSI for some fixed period and then was moved to welfare.
The advantage would be that the government feels welfare expenditure is their money and they'd be more likely to try to ensure fraud is kept at low levels, once it's coming from PRSI I feel that's less likely to be the case.
Disability Allowance is not paid from the Social Insurance Fund.
Illness Benefit and Invalidity Pension are paid from the Social Insurance Fund, based on PRSI contributions.
Investigating it is the easy part more than likely they will create a bigger mess by the time they are finished,Another factor is that the article points to the jump being "in the last ten years".
welfare.ie
Qualifying Conditions in Summary
To qualify for a Disability Allowance a person must:
- Have an injury, disease or physical or mental disability that has continued or may be expected to continue for at least one year
- As a result of this disability be substantially restricted in undertaking work that would otherwise be suitable for a person of your age, experience and qualifications
- be aged between 16 and under 66
- satisfy a means test
- be habitually resident in the State
I'm wondering, just as an observation, is part of the reason down to reduced working hours for people resulting in reduced income that then qualifies them for the allowance.
In other words, they may have already registered the disability but when times were good, they were still capable of holding down a full-time job that disqualified them from the allowance by virtue of their income?
Over the last ten years, when times were tight, and hours reduced, and pay reduced, is it possible that, given their disability and reduced income they now qualified for the allowance through the means test?
Perhaps in ten years from now, the same report will show a decrease in the claims due to the up-turn in employment?
In any case, it is right that it is investigated.
As far as I know disability allowance (which any of us could need to avail of) comes from PRSI. However I don't think you need to have made any PRSI payments to avail of it?
I remember in another thread I asked why our PRSI fund was being drained when our COAP and unemployment benefit didn't get that close to the overall figure being paid into PRSI. They answer some poster gave was disability.
If there is large scale abuse of disability then it'd be one of the reasons that COAP pension age is being delayed and payment levels impossible to predict.
Perhaps it would be better if disability was only covered by PRSI for some fixed period and then was moved to welfare.
The advantage would be that the government feels welfare expenditure is their money and they'd be more likely to try to ensure fraud is kept at low levels, once it's coming from PRSI I feel that's less likely to be the case.
Friends of mine prefer DA to JSA, as they will not be challenged to find work on DA.
That doesn't make sense. One of the conditions of DA is, in part, the recognition that it is more challenging for people with disability to find work.
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