Plans to help the Economy - posters suggestions.

1. private sector workers should stop blaming the public service for the woes of the economy and swallowing IBEC propaganda.

2. All homeless people, refugees, unemployed (like those layabouts from Hibernian insurance to be forced to clean up the streets of Dublin starting with DunLaouraigh and Sutton.

3. All employment law and workers rights leglislation to be revoked. it makes our economy weak and if those workers effected by the subsequent exploitation complain they are to be shown 24 hour video of sweat shop workers in Vietnam (reprogramming)


It must be terrible being a Progressive Democrat voter given their current electorial position. And next election Harney is retiring. Happy days:)
 
television said:
1. private sector workers should stop blaming the public service for the woes of the economy and swallowing IBEC propaganda.
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I agree that public sector employees should not be blamed for all the countries ills but I don’t know where you are coming from with “IBEC propaganda”.

television said:
2. All homeless people, refugees, unemployed (like those layabouts from Hibernian insurance to be forced to clean up the streets of Dublin starting with DunLaouraigh and Sutton.
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Get that chip off your shoulder…

television said:
3. All employment law and workers rights leglislation to be revoked. it makes our economy weak and if those workers effected by the subsequent exploitation complain they are to be shown 24 hour video of sweat shop workers in Vietnam (reprogramming)
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I don’t think that this would be a good idea.
Maybe you should take a look at the manufacturing facilities that multinations build in Vietnam (and other developing countries) where wages are higher than average and employees enjoy much better working conditions than those in the indigenous economy.
While you are at it read up on the extensive anti child labour and employee standards legislation that America forces it’s companies to comply with when they operate overseas. Alse read up on how extensive their enforcement regime is.
The sweat shops mainly supply the mid-sized companies in the European based rag trade and indigenous or regional damands.


television said:
It must be terrible being a Progressive Democrat voter given their current electorial position. And next election Harney is retiring. Happy days:)
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I doubt that most of those you are debating with are PD voters. I know I am not.
 
television said:
It must be terrible being a Progressive Democrat voter given their current electorial position. And next election Harney is retiring. Happy days:)
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And it must be terrible being a socialist or a Shinner given their current electoral position ;) Happy days indeed :D
 
ubiquitous said:
And it must be terrible being a socialist or a Shinner given their current electoral position ;) Happy days indeed :D
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I voted for labour in the last election 22 seats. Not a bad haul. And if they had a leader with a bit of carisma they might have got further.

However Finna fail have had a good record when it comes to issues of social justice in the last 10 years also.

Never voted for the Sinners never will.

But oh how laughed at the sad face of McDool in the last election and I am going to celebrate when the PDs are sent packing for good in the next one. Happy days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
 
television said:
I voted for labour in the last election 22 seats. Not a bad haul.
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Labour actually won 20 seats in the last election, an increase of zero on their performance in 2002 - bad enough to keep them out of government despite the fact that their prospective coalition partners won 20 extra seats. And, like the PDs, bad enough to force their leader to resign.
 
ubiquitous said:
Labour actually won 20 seats in the last election, an increase of zero on their performance in 2002 - bad enough to keep them out of government despite the fact that their prospective coalition partners won 20 extra seats. And, like the PDs, bad enough to force their leader to resign.
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yes 20 seats, how many did the PDs get again. The great champions of privatistion?
 
The PDs got 2 seats, after losing most of their support and practically all of their credibility over the previous 5 years. Their share of first preference votes was a measly 2.7% - which puts them clearly in the "irrelevant" category among Irish political parties and really makes me wonder why you seem so fixated on bashing them.
 
ubiquitous said:
The PDs got 2 seats, after losing most of their support and practically all of their credibility over the previous 5 years. Their share of first preference votes was a measly 2.7% - which puts them clearly in the "irrelevant" category among Irish political parties and really makes me wonder why you seem so fixated on bashing them.
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Because I read so many of what I would call "PD Parrots" on here.
 
ubiquitous said:
Is this what the debate is now reduced to? Maybe you might be better off sticking to the topic rather than trying to falsely label other contributors.
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Listen at various times in the debate i have been refered to as a "shinner" "loony left" "joe higgins" etc etc,. i.e

ubiquitous said:
And it must be terrible being a socialist or a Shinner given their current electoral position ;) Happy days indeed :D
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I think its a bit rich of you to get all precious all of a sudden.
 
One thing that hasn't been covered: energy costs. What can we do to improve efficiency or encourage alternative energy sources, or is this out of our hands?
 
autumnleaf said:
One thing that hasn't been covered: energy costs. What can we do to improve efficiency or encourage alternative energy sources, or is this out of our hands?
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Indeed. I am starting to believe that a rethink on nuclear is necessary. Look at the French - few rises in electricity costs over the last decade. Then look at us - with our oil and gas dependence -and the price rises for electricity alone in the last decade. With a few nuclear plants we could electrify our rail and thus lower our dependence on gas and oil. Not likely to happen though. Instead we'll get some more nonsense about biofuels.
 
csirl for Taoiseach !! :D


If you tried to sack all in HSE you'd have an almighty national strike on your hands. The health system would collapse, and the unions would block all attempts at hiring new staff for the HSE's replacement.
 
Indeed. I am starting to believe that a rethink on nuclear is necessary.
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This needs a new thread.
Nuclear (total life span of reactor, including decommissioning) is very, very expensive. This, coupled with the fact that Uranium ore is also a limited resource should make nuclear a non-starter.
 
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