Multi Fuel Stove - Total Cost Query

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nitski

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Hi there,

We just renovated our house and wanted to put a 5k multi-fuel stove where the open fire was in the living room.

We budgetted 2000 EUR knowing that prices in Ireland are inflated.

A friend directed us to a specialist retailer in Wicklow which gave good service etc. We saw a model we liked (Morso O4) and bought it for ~1100 EUR incl VAT and waited for the fitting quote. The fitting quote just came back and is nearly 2650 EUR incl VAT.

I am shocked at this price. We were told in the sales room that fitting is usually about 800 EUR. Expensive I thought but all-in it was within our budget. Breakdown (ex 13.5 % VAT) is:
Base 350
Flexible Flue Liner 750 (I live in a common 40s 2 up 2 down in Dublin that always had a fireplace)
Cowl 60
Adaptor 60
36" flue 60
Register plate 45
Trim Collar 45
Insulation 100
Labour 850
Total : 2630 Incl VAT

I am looking at total price of 3850 EUR for a 5k stove!

I am assuming that this is a fairly easy job - we were told it would take a day. 850 for labour?! If this is the going rate, I am leaving my job to fit stoves... I feel like telling them to stick the whole thing and get my stove from the UK (about 3-400 EUR cheaper) and get an independent fitter.

Anyone have any advice on the quote or tips to go elsewhere? Is this a normal fitting price?

Thanks,
Niall
 
You were told that fitting was about 800 and you got a quote for 850, so thats not unexpected. Perhaps it is a bit high.

The flue materials are expensive. You should have been told that you would need them I suppose.
 
I think that is very expensive, but it does depend on the flue materials, we have chimneys for ours, so nothing fancy and I have been guestimated €600 to install our two stoves, one multifuel, one woodburning, but the man is coming out next week to get final price, so maybe it will bump up, but still.....
 
I meant to say that the flue materials are expensive, in general. not that yours looked overly expensive.

all you can do is get another quote in I guess.
 
PGD1 said:
You were told that fitting was about 800 and you got a quote for 850, so thats not unexpected. Perhaps it is a bit high.

The flue materials are expensive. You should have been told that you would need them I suppose.
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I got quoted ~800 originally for fit only and now they are telling me it will cost 2600 for fit only. Thats an 1800 difference. Just seems very excessive. And labour seems very high. Considering the stove is already about 400 EUR more expensive than UK prices.

Really want a stove but at that price no way!
 
Are you sure you understood the initial quote? The price for the stoves just include for the stove unit itself, it would not include for the fitting ( flues, liners. adaptors etc) and as PGD has said they are very expensive. The shop will not know where your stove is situated ( tight to wall, in a recess, away from wall) so unless you explain the details they may not have included for these fittings.
By the way 800 does seem high for fitting a standard stove, it should take no more than a 1-1.5 days for a couple of lads ot fit
There is a supplier (FMCC?) who posts here and he will give you good and fair advice im sure
 
Hi guys
Nit this does depend on the job which sounds like they are relining the chimney properly and filling/insulating this void because they are up on the roof and it is labour intensive I'd say its about right. You could ask a chimney company to price relining the flue to get a comparison. However was the chimney already relined is there an 8" pot there already and are these all sound? ie no leaks if so there would be an easier cheaper option of simply connecting via an adapter but this depends on height of flue draught in flue etc.
Whats the overall height of the flue? flexi for solid fuel is about €55 per metre on average. There is a lighter one for oil gas a lot cheape but not suited for solid fuel if comparing in other shops.
 
Can any one tell me the cost and availability of wood to burn in a stove. am thinking of getting a charnwood SLX multifuel stove as cost of gas heating has reached milionire level. Am in Dublin. Will suppliers make home delivery. What is best type of wood to burn in stove. What price is wood? thanks in advance.
 
Hi Bonniecat, we have a multi-fuel stove also, lit our first fire last Sunday. I bought a bag of logs, holds about 20 good sized logs which cost €7 at the local petrol station. I was dissappointed as just used logs and paper, the fire never really took off at all. But I got my OH on Monday to buy a bag of coal, (I got the better deal) and it cost €18 for the bag and I thought I would pass out from the heat. We just piled up some coal on paper with a firelighter and put 2 logs on top and left it. Burned away for ages, no way we needed to put more fuel on.

So, I think you need coal to really throw out a good bit of heat or briquettes etc, not just wood but once it is going, logs are great, take ages to burn in the stove. So, two logs from the bag and a shovel of coal, a briquette also and that is your fire for the night, for a long time, ours lastest hours. You would have to work out the costs yourself, so from your local shop, price bag of logs, coal and bale of briquettes and divide it up so you are getting your costs per day. I think it is very cost effective.
 
Buying coal, logs etc from a forecourt is likely to be very expensive ( I buy six bags of Polish coal for €81 or €13.50 per bag ). Your chances of getting well seasoned logs from a forecourt ie dried for a year to 18 months before use ( to produce most heat and least creosote ) are nil imo.
 
HI Abbica have to agree with demoivre here the logs from most forecourts are very damp and will defo cause the glass to blacken up and give naff all heat. Buy a bag now and dont burn till next year and see the difference. The market will start to provide seasoned wood in the futureas the demand grows.
I just posted some info on the blog about wood as a fuel also.
 
I agree with you both regarding dry wood as the logs we got were damp but we are only in our new house so we didn't have the luxury.

Do you have any suggestions re storage of logs, a man is cutting a tree at mums house next week and he is giving us a few logs but where do we put them, so they remain dry outside?? Also coal?
 
Abbica a lean to or something like that is fine a shed if it doesn't have enough air flow through it will just cause mould. The tree should be split and quartered and then the logs raised off the ground. Should be left for 18 months min. You can buy storage lean tos from somewjere that would also do wood sheds i imagine.
 
Considering putting in Mulberry Beckett into our home. We have ten rads (only 2 double rads in the house at the moment so uograding them in the near future is another project). FMC-can I ask you if we already have a back boiler in situ in the sitting room-will we need to do any further pipe work when installing the Beckett? The water tank in the hot press is particularly small-is there a particular size tank that we should consider putting in? Apologies for the questions!! but you do seem to be very well versed in these things!!!!

Regarding wood for the burners-Shaws Trees are importing 2cubic meter palets of wood from Russia and selling it for 450euro. It is all cut to perfectly to size and air dried ASH. I have absolutely no connection with SHAWs-just spotted their wood for sale recently at Peamount hosp.
 
Thanks for the advice fmc, when we get our garden shed, instead of putting it in the shed which will get dirty etc, take up space, I might put a lean to roof beside it. Just come up with another quick fix solution for now.
 
Stanley have an offer on at the moment until the end of October where they are giving 30 bales of briquettes free with the Ashling, Grainne, Tara and Erin models. Has anybody availed of this offer? It looks to be a very tempting offer but very suspicious as Stanley would appear to be one of the market leaders in Solid Fuel Stoves. Have they started to import inferior quality from abroad or whats the story?
 
Stanley have been getting their stoves made in China for a while now, the same with Mulberry and others. When looking at stoves ask straight out where are they made. I know some claim to be Irish or English because they are re-packed or maybe the glass is fitted here. Quality is worth the extra money because to install a stove properly can cost a lot of money as seen in the earlier posts.
 
Peter C-are the Chinese made stoves an inferior quality would you think? Just about to order a Mulberry.
 
fluffy47 said:
Peter C-are the Chinese made stoves an inferior quality would you think? Just about to order a Mulberry.
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There are a lot of different stoves on the Irish market at the moment, personally I would put Mulberry at the bottom of the list when it comes to quality and after sales service. Some Chinese stoves are good quality however the better quality units tend to be as expensive as the UK or EU manufactured stoves. I have seen the Chinese cast iron crack and it was not due to installer or customer error, the reason was the cast iron panels were made from scrap iron which means some parts of the cast can be weaker than others. Personally I would stay with E.U or UK manufactured stoves because the manufacturing standards are a lot tougher which means better quality.
 
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