Dublin Looking for pro-landlord proactive solicitor

[DannyBoyD]

RTB is useless in defending landlord's rights and so was hoping to find a proactive solicitor

RTB don't see "defending landlords" as their job.

Having said that, I don't know that engaging a solicitor will speed them up in any way.

 

[drunat]

Was this said to you or your tenant?

It was said to my tenant, I imagine it was off the record, just advice on what others do in that situation... I did not deal with HAP directly. Tenant was very apologetic and genuinely couldn't find the place and was stressed about it.

 

[DannyBoyD]

said to my tenant

So no disrespect to you or your tenant, but you don't really know what was said or by whom.

 

[mathepac]

I did not deal with HAP directly

I'm finding some of your language difficult to follow, its getting in the way of following the thread.

I'm sorry if I appear pedantic, but to say it again, HAP is not an organisation.

Solicitors are not pro or anti any particular group or groups of people or professions - they are pro their client, whoever is paying their invoices.

And I don't know that proactive has any meaning at all in this context. It's a bit like the Garda spokesperson who has said multiple times, proudly, they are proactive in solving crime; they can if they work hard be proactive in crime prevention, but not in solving crimes. Solving crime is a reaction to something that has already happened.

 

[patfert1]

HAP is not an organisation

I appreciate what you are saying, that it is a mechanism rather than an organisation. However there is an office in Limerick which does all the centralised HAP administration, which as a landlord i have contacted with questions regarding my tenants payment status. My property is not in Limerick. I believe that is what the OP is referring to.

 

[Bronte]

Yes the main HAp office where the payments come from is in Limerick, I’ve dealt with them directly.

And yes council staff, those in social welfare and Threshold will and do tell tenants not to leave properties. They won’t put it in writing. Or if they do anything in writing it will be worded very carefully.

To landlords, and indeed tenants, they all refer to such people advising them as “The HAP People”.

 

[The Horseman]

Seriously lads the poster came to look for advise on a solicitor and most of the posts have questioned who said what, what the definition of who or what HAP is etc. The poster is obviously stressed with the situation and a solicitor will investigate the facts of who said what etc and will initiate the relevant legal options available to the landlord to address the matter.

 

[DannyBoyD]

poster is obviously stressed with the situation

OP has dealt with NOT and overholding tenants in the past.

These tenants are not as yet overholding as the notice is for them to leave on or before September 2026.

As pointed out by others, the communication style has made it more difficult to follow.

In any event, OP has been given both recommendations and advice.

 

[Bronte]

Terry Gorry & Co. Solicitor

OP I think Gorry is your best bet. I’ve no faith in most solicitors in this area of law. In my own cases we did the notices ourselves, I took advice from the IPOA and took RTB cases against myself on the validity of the notices. So that we would not end up two years down the line having out notices dismissed as invalid.

Gorry knows what he’s at. If I need a solicitor it is him I’d hire. (No connection to him)

 

[Leo]

and most of the posts have questioned who said what, what the definition of who or what HAP is etc.

I think it's safe to assume that most people referring to getting advice from HAP would mean the HAP Section of the relevant local authority. For example, Dublin City Council, HAP Section, Block 2 Floor 2, Civic Offices hap@dublincity.ie

 

[DannyBoyD]

HAP Section of the relevant local authority

I think that's a reasonable deduction at this point given the information eventually provided, and the OP could have been clearer at the outset.

 

[patfert1]

HAP Section of the relevant local authority

In my experience as a landlord it is all delegated to the limerick office.

 

[Leo]

I think that's a reasonable deduction at this point given the information eventually provided, and the OP could have been clearer at the outset.

Who else might it have been at the outset? Some auld lad called HAP down the local?

 

[Luternau]

delegated to the limerick office.

Its a sign of the times/sad reflection of the PRS where a government body/Local Authorities/ whatever are giving advice (on or off the record) to HAP tenants in receipt of a legally served end of tenancy notice, to ignore/not engage with the end of tenancy process.
Would a DSP staff member advise someone on how to fraudulently claim benefits or would a staff member of Revenue advise a tax payer how to under declare tax?

Going forward, why would any property owner accept a HAP tenancy ?

The only problem tenant I ever had that failed to pay rent, wanted everything replaced that they broke, over held and went on to wreck a very nice property was in receipt of HAP. Never again!

 

[Greenbook]

Its a sign of the times/sad reflection of the PRS where a government a body/Local Authority/ whatever are giving advice (on or off the record) to HAP tenants in receipt of a legally served end of tenancy notice, to ignore/not engage with the end of tenancy process.

It happens because it means the overholding tenant is the landlord's problem and not the government's problem.

Same reason why the RTB, a government agency, is so pro-tenant in overholding situations. If the tenant is evicted, the government will very likely have to look after him. Much better to leave him in the landlord's lap.

 

[mark11]

Mallin OToole Dublin2, advertise in the IPOA.ie newsletter so they must be used to overholding.
I have never used them because I was a member of the IPOA and they helped me with all the NoT etc.

 

[Greenbook]

Maybe just join the IPOA and get help from them if you need it.