Leave in Unit linked fund or move to shares now

laila

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Had decided a couple of months ago to definitely move from a unit linked fund to individual shares and have been mulling over which shares to go for. Now I wonder should I cash in the unit fund and put it on deposit until such time as things have calmed down and then buy some shares. any opinions welcome. The unit linked fund has not done so well over the 8 years I have had it so I am not relying on the fund management to batten down the hatches and minimise the damage.
 
not sure but I think the charges are about average for a unit fund - it is the summit fund growth with ebs.
 
Had decided a couple of months ago to definitely move from a unit linked fund to individual shares and have been mulling over which shares to go for...... The unit linked fund has not done so well over the 8 years I have had it so I am not relying on the fund management to batten down the hatches and minimise the damage.

It's not clear what you think you will achieve by moving things to shares. So just a couple of questions to help you clarify your decision:

- What makes you think that you can achieve better returns or time the market than the fund managers who currently manage your money?

- If you are picking individual shares, it's generally significantly higher risk for your money. Are you also happy to take the significantly higher risk of loss that goes with that strategy?

- If the unit-linked fund has not done so well, you need to be clear on the reasons for this. Is it the general market? Is it the fund choice you made at the outset? Neither of these go away with individual share choice, and in fact it could be argued the risk increases. Is the reason to do with charges? If so, you need to compare the costs of dealing in shares individually. See below.

- How much 'cost' will you put on the amount of time you spend managing your money versus the amount of time you save by leaving it to the fund managers.

- Have you also factored in the cost of dealing in shares. I've tried it and it's very expensive! 1% stamp duty on Irish shares, not to mind stockbroker costs. Do that even a couple of times a year, and you are incurring 3%-4% p.a. costs. Pretty difficult to achieve returns which offset that unless you know your stuff and spend a lot of time at it. Or at least that's my experience. Do you know roughly how much per annum you will spend on dealing charges? You should compare the costs of the fund you are in with the total cost of DIY fund management.

- When you refer to the fund management 'battening down the hatches', what do you mean by that and how does moving the money into shares achieve this (if you feel you can't rely on the fund management to do this)? If you are referring to fund management's folly in not avoiding the market downturn of recent times could you have not avoided this and moved your money into a cash fund in the funds you have at the moment?
 
Thanks for the replies it is very helpful.

My intention is to build up a capital sum that will generate a dividend income. From reading on this site it seemed to me that over the long term if (in general) one has a buy and hold strategy that the costs of share dealing while initially higher worked out less expensive than unit linked funds in the long term.

Apologies for taking a dig at fund managers that was not very fair. It is the general market that is responsible for the current downturn and you are right that I would have been no better off with individual shares at the moment.

From a personal perspective I think of battening down the hatches at the moment as putting the money on deposit and buying indiviudal shares and ETF's when the market starts to pick up again. I know it is hard to predict when this will be exactly but the general mood seems to be that it could have some way to go before that happens yet. I am trying to decide if I should leave the unit fund and go on deposit for a while and then buy back in to shares when the market has picked up or stabilised. I know it is crystal ball gazing to be even asking this question but I was hoping that someone would be able to take a better educated guess than I can.

Thanks again.
 
Read the key posts on the pros and cons of direct versus indirect equity investments.
 
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