Key Post: Sign in shop - No return on sale items...

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legend99

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Was in a shoe shop yesterday...witnessed a quite hillarious oh no you can't, oh yes i can scene.
The shop has up A4 posters in bold print saying:
NO EXCHANGE OR REFUND ON SALE ITEMS.
Under in in much smaller print it says:
STATUTORY RIGHTS NOT AFFECTED.


Is this legal or not? The customer was claiming it was illegal, obviously the shop assistant was claiming it was legal. My understanding is that a shop is under no obligation to take anything back just if you don't like it. I.E. it only needs to take back a pair of shoes it, for example they are faulty and then at that point it can offer to replace, repair or refund but its not for you to choose which it is.....but can they apply different policy to different items...or are all my thoughts above crap anyways?!

Interested to know...
 
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Just found this....
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it seems that I was right and wrong....they are entitled to not take back stuff just cas you don't like them the next day...but they are not allowed display the signs they have up
 
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Hi Legend,

Even though youve answered your own question, Ive copied the ocda page here. Ill also move the post to the Good Deals/ Consumer Rights section.
ajapale

The Consumer’s rights when buying in the sales are the same as they are at any other time:

Goods must be fit for the purpose for which they are sold and be durable as can be expected having regard to the price paid for them and any other factor about them that may be relevant.

For example, If goods are marked ‘shop soiled’ or ‘seconds’, then the consumer, as well as expecting to pay less for them can also expect that they may not be as merchantable or durable as first class goods. However, such goods must give reasonable value for money in line with the description given of them.

Goods must be used for the purpose for which they are sold.

Be careful about buying for other people in the sales. Remember, the purchaser is the ‘person with the ‘statutory consumer rights’ so articles bought as gifts which may not fit the recipient or are otherwise unacceptable to them may not be so easily exchanged or the cost re-imbursed. This rule-of-thumb is good at all times but in the sales in particular there is a tendency for individuals when they see a ‘bargain’ to buy for other people (nieces, nephews, older children, etc), with the consequent risk that the article bought might be unsuitable.

Remember, the seller is not legally obliged to ‘exchange’ goods or to ‘refund’ money in circumstances otherwise than where the goods are unfit for their purpose. For example just because a jumper given as a present, does not fit the recipient does not make the jumper unfit for its purpose: it simply means, in all probability, that the purchaser, seeing a bargain thought that it would fit the person for whom they bought it. In this, all to frequent type of situation, neither the recipient nor the purchaser (consumer) has any legal right at all against the seller. However, the seller, in the interests of good customer relations may very well come to a satisfactory settlement with the person who brings the goods back.

It is wise to keep the receipt for all goods bought – particularly ‘sale’ goods. The receipt is, for obvious reasons, the most straightforward method of proof of purchase.

The shop is perfectly entitled to ask for proof of purchase.

Remember, goods do not become unfit for their purpose just because a person changes their mind or has second thoughts about them.

Because the consumer’s legal right is to a replacement or refund of price it is an ‘offence’ for shops to put up notices which say:

-No money refunded.
-Credit notes only given.
-Goods not exchanged.

A credit note may be accepted by the consumer in lieu of taking a replacement or a refund but where the consumer elects for this the shop is entitled to attach the condition that the credit note be used within a specified period of time.

Remember, the contract for the sale of goods is between the consumer and the seller or the supplier (retailer). Thus the consumer is not obliged to have recourse to an importer much less a manufacturer in order to enjoy their rights if the goods are unfit for their intended purpose.
The Small Claims Court is available to a person who deals as consumer only in order to seek a remedy from a retailer.
Misleading advertising and false or misleading descriptions.

Sale goods must not be falsely described. False or misleading trade descriptions are offences for which the Director can prosecute. On descriptions generally the issue is what is said about the goods misleading from the perspective of the ordinary consumer who has no specialist knowledge of the goods in question.
 
Re: No return on sale items...

...but they are not allowed display the signs they have up


There is nothing wrong with the sign they have posted because it specifically states that Your Statutory Rights are not affected

NO EXCHANGE OR REFUND ON SALE ITEMS.
Under in in much smaller print it says:
STATUTORY RIGHTS NOT AFFECTED.​

Marion :hat
 
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Was wondering that over lunch...thanks for clearing it up.
pity your man didn't have a right go at them and have a fight break out!
 
consumer choice

Free with last saturday's Irish Times was a copy of Consumer Choice, the magazine of the Consumers' Assoc. of Ireland.
It had some fantastic, informative articles including one on the Art of Complaining. One of the misconceptions it puts straight is that any notice saying: "No Refunds" cant remove your rights.
There's also an hilarious "script" demonstrating the Broken Record Technique of complaining.
Seek out the magazine if you haven't already seen it.
 
Re: consumer choice

Free with last saturday's Irish Times was a copy of Consumer Choice, the magazine of the Consumers' Assoc. of Ireland.
It had some fantastic, informative articles including one on the Art of Complaining.


I found the sample Consumer Choice magazine a bit of a mixed bag really. I couldn't imagine too many average punters being able to follow some of the articles, in particular the product reviews which included some very arcane review summary tables which I personally found very difficult to interpret. Can't see too many people subscribing to the monthly mag. Anybody know what the audited circulation is?
 
Re: consumer choice

Was that the rag that had a review of telephone companies & their charges...........based on 2003 pricing ?
 
Re: consumer choice

I used to subscribe years ago.
Got a FREE 6 months trial if I signed a direct debit.
Forgot to cancel it and continued to receive it for another 14 months before I twigged I was paying for it.
It was very expensive about 10 years ago!
 
Re: consumer choice

I used to read consumer choice magazine in my local library and photocopy pages as I required them. I havent been to the library in many years.

I know of aworkplace where the staff have a subscription to the British Cnsumers Magazine and have over 20 years of magazines for reference in the office! I often asked them for an article which they faxed me.

ajapale
 
Re: consumer choice

I found the sample Consumer Choice magazine a bit of a mixed bag really. I couldn't imagine too many average punters being able to follow some of the articles, in particular the product reviews which included some very arcane review summary tables which I personally found very difficult to interpret. Can't see too many people subscribing to the monthly mag. Anybody know what the audited circulation is?

We need a stronger consumer lobby in Ireland, so I, for one, am considering subscribing to this magazine in order to help subsidise and support the Consumer Association.

As a consumer, I'm tired of being screwed... :mad

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