Job application - unsuitable Why?

Plus there is always the possibility that the application wasn't received, did you receive notice that it was? If not its no harm to call and they may include you in an interview if the post hasn't already been taken.
 
FOI Act may entitle you to find out why you were not shortlisted. FOI enables you to get a copy of all relevant records surrounding the process. The FOI request may unearth a marking sheet or some such document, but only if the document exists.

You should also look closely at Section 18 of the 2003 Act which seems to be what you are looking for. However there are exemptions under this Section that may or may not apply in this case.
 
The job was a lecturing position in a third level college and I met all the criteria. The main reason I would like to get the info. is to improve my chances next time - thanks for all the replies!

Did you follow up your job application with a telephone call? If not, is it possible they never received your application?
 
I have experience of shortlisting in third level institutions. The process operates with a pre established criteria which is usually based on a set of essential and desirable requirements from the job description.

The shortlisting process would focus on skills, experience, qualifications and any other key requirments and is applied to all candidates.

The notes from the shortlisting are kept and there is an expectation that some unsuccesfull candidates may follow up with a phone call. This is not an issue and usually there is a clear reason why you have not got through the shortlisting process. Its no big deal to phone and politely ask for the reason.
 
I'd do that rather than making an FOI request, especially if you want to be considered for future positions.
 
I'd do that rather than making an FOI request, especially if you want to be considered for future positions.
It is very unlikely that the person who will deal with the FOI request will be the same person who deals with applications for future positions. Even it if were the same person, the principles of fairness, openness and transparency will apply to future positions, and the process for future positions will be open to the same FOI process. It would be a foolhardy HR person that allowed bias arising from previous FOI requests to creep into shortlisting processes.
 
but in the real world...
In the real world. any person showing bias would be open to review by an independent person, and to a formal complaints process. It's easy to wink-wink-nudge-nudge about possible problems, but perhaps you'd like to show some real evidence that such problems have occured and continue to occur?
 
I am well aware of the goings on, I have no intention of showing you real evidence.

Your belief in a
review by an independent person, and to a formal complaints process
is naive at best.

Put a candidate or CV in front of me and I'll find a dozen reasons he/she shouldn't get the job - whoever it is and whatever the position.

Have you gone through the FOI process as described below?
 
Your belief in a is naive at best.

It might help move the discussion forward if you are specific about your concerns about such processes, rather than just using the FUD factor approach. These review processes exist for most public bodies.

Put a candidate or CV in front of me and I'll find a dozen reasons he/she shouldn't get the job - whoever it is and whatever the position.
You miss the point. It's not a matter of what dozen reasons you find. It is a matter of these reasons standing up to independent review when referenced against the published job requirements. If they stand up, then they are valid. If they don't, your bias is exposed.

Have you gone through the FOI process as described below?
I've used FOI a number of times, though not for recruitment issues. I find that most of the rubbish spouted about flawed recruitment processes is down to candidates' denial.
 
It might help move the discussion forward

I'm not going to put my career at risk to prove a point. I am not referring to hearsay - I am familiar with official/unofficial policies and attitudes toward FOI.
 
Exactly, so why encourage the OP and give false hope.

I'm not going to put my career at risk to prove a point. I am not referring to hearsay - I am familiar with official/unofficial policies and attitudes toward FOI.
I never suggested that you would breach professional confidences. If you want your slurs about bias in recruitment against people who would have submitted FOI requests in the past to carry any weight, you will need to be much more detailed, without breaching any confidences.

Nothing I said would have given anybody false hope. This tugging-of-forelock attitude that we mustn't complain in case we cause offence to somebody needs to be challenged. These attitudes only survive as long as we let them.
 
What will complaining actually achieve in this case - will it get her the job? Complaining for the sake of it is not particularly constructive.

My comments on FOI relate to it in general, not to it's use in relation to recruitment specifically. You admit to not having used the process for recruitment, so this entire discussion is redundant.

I also don't appreciate being preached to about complaining - I do my fair share of complaining when it is warranted - I just don't view it as a "badge of honour" like you clearly do - if your userID, footer & website is anything to go by.
 
Complainer - I have read your website and think its very informative and if more of us compained every time we come up against poor customer service, the world might be a less stressful place to live in.
 
What will complaining actually achieve in this case - will it get her the job? Complaining for the sake of it is not particularly constructive.
We seem to have lost sight of the original question. The OP was inquiring about how to get information on why their application was not successful. As several posters have pointed out, a simple phone call to the relevant HR department may well be all that is required to elicit useful information that can help the OP when applying for future jobs.

It would only be in the case where this information is not forthcoming that the OP will need to invoke a complaints procedure. To dismiss this procedure because it will not get her the job is missing the point. The OP is seeking information.

My comments on FOI relate to it in general, not to it's use in relation to recruitment specifically. You admit to not having used the process for recruitment, so this entire discussion is redundant.
No, it's not redundant. Regardless of whether you or I have personal experience of the use of FOI in recruitment situations, the fact remains that the OP has a legal entitlement to such information under FOI. It may well not be necessary to invoke this right, but it exists, nonetheless.

I also don't appreciate being preached to about complaining - I do my fair share of complaining when it is warranted - I just don't view it as a "badge of honour" like you clearly do - if your userID, footer & website is anything to go by.

Complainer - I have read your website and think its very informative and if more of us compained every time we come up against poor customer service, the world might be a less stressful place to live in.

Thanks to both of you for your feedback, which is always welcome when constructive (both positive and negative).
 
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