Brendan Burgess
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That depends on how you define under supply. Is it a lack of new builds or a lack of properties available to the market? If the problem is under utilisation then increasing the supply of new properties is a very expensive and inefficient solution.If there was no lack of supply, we wouldn't be putting refugees and asylum seekers into hotels.
With an 8% vacancy rate, it suggests that underutilisation is a big part of the problem.
Of Dublin’s 30k vacant units, 4k were for sale, 5k were being renovated, 3k were vacant because the resident(s) were in hospital/care, 3k because the resident was recently deceased and 1k were new builds awaiting their first occupation. Majority will be occupied by Census 2027.
https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1540251398482403328
Dublin had 9k rental units that were vacant on Census night. This is around 5% of its rental stock (c.175k units). Represents churn between lettings and most will be re-occupied. Also includes around 1k temporarily vacant social housing units owned by the four local authorities.
After these legitimate (and temporary) reasons for vacancy on Census night there were around 6k units in Dublin that were vacant for other/unknown reasons. Some may have gone in the above categories had it been possible to determine the reason for their vacancy.
On long-term vacancy, Dublin had just 1,335 livable units (0.2% of 2022 stock) that were vacant in each recent census – 2011, 2016 and 2022. In contrast, Mayo had 2,171 (3.2% of its 2022 stock) that were vacant in each census. /end
https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1540252337117216769/photo/1
https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1540252015355363328
https://twitter.com/seamuscoffey/status/1540251758789885955
Yeah, that's true I suppose. Could we define the problem as "lack of properties available to the market?" An element of any solution has to be the building of more properties though.That depends on how you define under supply. Is it a lack of new builds or a lack of properties available to the market? If the problem is under utilisation then increasing the supply of new properties is a very expensive and inefficient solution.
The vacancy rate comes from the census, and is overstated. Some people, just don't want to complete the census form and so don't answer the door. Some census enumerators will then, after a few attempts, register the property as vacant.It's a good article, but I would have liked to see his proposed solution.
With an 8% vacancy rate, it suggests that underutilisation is a big part of the problem.
Brendan
This is not true.Some census enumerators will then, after a few attempts, register the property as vacant.
It is most certainly true, regardless of the obligations on enumerators.This is not true.
That might be the theory but in an apartment complex good luck with that in practice.This is not true.
Enumerators are obliged to check with neighbours to ascertain if a property is actually vacant.
If occupant doesn't want to engage with the enumerator it is recorded as occupied and all the other data is left as "not stated".
Even if true apartments are less than <10% of the housing stock.That might be the theory but in an apartment complex good luck with that in practice.
Is every enumerator perfectly consicentious? No. But it is not a "true" claim in the general sense.It is most certainly true, regardless of the obligations on enumerators.
My point doesn't remotely contradict Coffey. Both he and I conclude that the Census statistics grossly overstate the problem of vacant homes.Is every enumerator perfectly consicentious? No. But it is not a "true" claim in the general sense.
Seamus Coffey looked at units vacants in the last three censuses and it's below.
If your "hermit-never-opening-the-door" theory were true you wouldn't see the kind of variation below as presumably there would be some kind of person who consistently never engages with the CSO who lives all over the country.
In Dublin there was one property in 400 consistently vacant for three censuses - that is not a material vacancy rate in any sense.
Whichever way your view is on the reliability of the statistics, I don't think either of us thinks that there is some magical supply of empty housing in Ireland.
Or by waving a magic wand !They could fix this at source by building low cost public housing with limited profits and govt ownership.
Yes, a few "will somebody please think about the children!" emotive talking points really help these discussions.While you're worrying about "specifications" people are living in tents.
Thankfully we don't do really stupid things like that anymore.There were big public housing schemes in past decades 60s and 70s and 80s etc.
So that we don't repeat the moronic mistakes of the past. We want massive social transfers (the highest in Europe), massive healthcare spending (amongst the highest in the world), a good education system and all the other things that developed countries have. If we stopped doing all of that then we could build houses like we did in the 60's and 70's. Still think it's a good idea?Not sure why it requires "magic wands" in 2023
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