Is there a good summary of the national finances anywhere?

Discussion in 'Economic issues' started by Brendan Burgess, Sep 5, 2018.

  1. Brendan Burgess

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    Government income:
    Government expenditure:
    Deficit:

    The main heads of expenditure
    The main heads of income

    Total government debt
    less investments
    Net government debt

    GDP*

    Shortfall on Social Insurance Fund
    Shortfall on Public Sector Pensions

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  2. RedOnion

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  3. RETIRED2017

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    any Information in finfacts Ireland
     
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  5. Brendan Burgess

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    Red

    That looks exactly what I was looking for.

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  6. Brendan Burgess

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    I have extracted what I can from that document on the attached Excel spreadsheet. It took a long time to get this far.

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    Someone must have done this already?

    Explaining the country's revenue and expenditure in layman's terms.

    If not, they should do it.

    I have put a call in to the CSO.

    Brendan
     

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  7. Brendan Burgess

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    The best summary so far comes from the Fiscal Monitor at 31 Dec 2017. This is the Exchequer Statement so excludes local authorities and non commercial semi-state companies. So it excludes things like Rates and Car Tax.

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  8. Brendan Burgess

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    The CSO figures are not well laid out but are for "Government General Expenditure" which I presume includes the local authorities and non-commercial semi-states. The Revenue is €14 billion higher.

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  9. RedOnion

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    Ah sure that's just rounding..... ;)

    There's a page somewhere on CSO that explains how they are calculated, as it's standardised across EU.
     
  10. mornington

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    Would the Comptroller and Auditor General reports be of use?
    Accounts for 2017 must be published before the end of the month.
     
  11. Opus2018

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    Hi lads,

    The CSO GFS return which is done quarterly would be the best port of call. Try the April and October returns for annualized data. The SSF figures can be accessed via their annual report but I thought they were in surplus now? The same with Local Government, it’s just Central government has a deficit now.

    By the way the C And AG get their figures from CSO anyway.

    Best, Opus
     
  12. Sophrosyne

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    I’m not sure whether this is what you want. It is a link to:

    Finance Accounts,
    Audited Financial Statements of the Exchequer for the Financial Year 1st January 2017 to 31st December 2017.
     
  13. Brendan Burgess

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    Hi Sop

    That is super.

    I still think that the CSO or Finance needs to publish the information in a simple format for the public to understand and appreciate.

    Brendan
     
  14. Sophrosyne

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    Yes I often thought that myself, though I was thinking more of a version for secondary schools.