BTW the current siptu incumbent has for the last 18 months been delating and stalling on any progress with regard to the last national pay agreement. The company says it couldn't pay the increase in the current financial climate and has requested that it be reviewed about 6 or 7 times over an 18 month period with the siptu guy basically going along with that. The company did have to lay off a about 20 people for a few months at the beginning but in the last year business has increased 5 fold due to the closing of the continental plant and centralizing all manufacturing with us. New extension, loads of new machinery and lines etc and still crying the poor mouth. Despite all this never once has SIPTU mentioned that after such a period of inaction the case should be refered to the labour court who will appoint a third party to look at the books and decide what course of action to to recommend. The company would NEVER let anyone look at the books in any case, yet the union guy spews out the same rubbish all the time i.e stall and delay. I know its the union members fault for not challanging the SIPTU clown but most people feel why should they put the head above the parapet for others who wont say anything either, except in the canteen or the smoking shelter where it doesn't count. Anyway in short SIPTU is totally bent as regards our company but unfortunately we'll never be able to prove it.