Hiring childminder in the home

Discussion in 'Other financial issues' started by redwellies, Apr 19, 2017.

  1. redwellies

    redwellies New Member

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    i am considering childcare options and I was toying with the idea of having a childminder mind our 2 in our home when I return to work. At that stage one of them will be 20 months and the other will be 6 months.
    Can anyone advise as to what the actual cost of this would be (roughly). I am aware that I will also have to pay prsi etc as I will be an employer.
    Has anyone gone down this route? How much is the actual cost (roughly)? Are there any tax breaks I can claim if I am effectively becoming an employer?
    Is there anything else I should be aware of in this regard?
     
  2. emeralds

    emeralds Frequent Poster

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    My brother in law and his wife have a minder in their home. Two children slightly older than yours. They pay €500 per week to the minder. That is net of tax, PRSI and USC. They also pay employer's PRSI. There are no tax breaks that I am aware of.
     
  3. T McGibney

    T McGibney Frequent Poster

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    Always negotiate their pay on a gross basis, ie before tax, not after tax as then you won't lose out if for whatever reason Revenue withhold part or all of their tax credits or standard rate cutoff.

    The total cost to you will be their gross pay plus employer's PRSI.
     
  4. redwellies

    redwellies New Member

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    Last edited: May 17, 2017
    Thank you for your responses.
    Has anyone hired a childminder in the home on a term-time basis (I am a teacher). I know many Montessori / preschools work this way with staff signing on in the summer. Has anyone an idea as to who I should contact in order to get clarification on these matters?
    Thanks again.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2017
  5. argentina

    argentina Frequent Poster

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    HI,
    I have a Minder who comes to my House every day and looks after my small Children. It has worked out much better for us than when the kids were in creche. Best places to advertise are Gumtree, Mindme and Rollercoaster websites - not sure where you are based but you can put an ad up in some local shops too.
    If you are only looking for termtime put this in the ad, there may be some minders who are studying parttime etc and don't want fulltime hours. As you are their employer you need to pay them at least minimum wage (€9.15 per hour) and also pay Employers PRSI (Employers pay 8.5% employer PRSI on weekly earnings up to €376. Employers pay 10.75% employer PRSI on weekly earnings over €376). You also need to deduct PRSI and USC from their salary.
    We pay our Minder €11 per hour, I also pay her PRSI/USC contribution (don't have the heart to deduct it from her Salary).
    Agree upfront what the T&C's are; e.g. if she is sick for a day do you pay her. Also as she is an employee she is entitled to Holiday pay. I agreed with my minder that she takes her main Holidays (2 week block) in July - same as us. Any other ah-hoc days (e.g. a Wedding, Long Weekend away) I pay her for the day. If she wanted to take e.g. 2 weeks in November I wouldn't pay her (this hasn't happened). I also pay her for Bank Holidays.
    Also agree what level of housework you expect. My Minder cooks for the kids and tidies up their Toys etc, I don't expect her to clean the house.
    Overall it does workout more expensive than having 2 kids in creche, between her salary and the extra spent on heating, food etc in the house. I also signed my older child up for more activities in the afternoons than creche.
    Good Minders are hard to come by so you need to treat them well.
    What you are describing might suit a mature Mother who has e.g. Teenagers and is happy to have Summer/Easter etc off
     
  6. redwellies

    redwellies New Member

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    Thank you so much for that info! I'll have to crunch the numbers and see how it works out......