fixing Neighbours drain pipe

thelad77 said:
I am assuming he might think the seeds came from the 17 ft elm tree
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You need to understand this has no relevance whatsoever. While it's likely the seed came from your tree, it's not certain, and regardless, you have no liability under law for seeds that originate from plants on your property.

thelad77 said:
To be clear he could employ a worker to clean the gutter and remove the tree standing on the gable roof
The worker would need use safety gear like ropes strap to avoid falling off a sloping roof that 25 ft high
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No. As Branz posted above, they can ask for access to carry out this maintenance via your property, that is the only reasonable option.
 
I'm getting a ladder in 2 days time,
I looked closer today,
I notice there's a crack in his wall about 1 inch from the pipe
Crack is about 2 inches wide by 1.5 inch,
The tree is growing directly inside the wall,
Around the tree there's 2 or 3 cracks
In the wall,
About 14 inch long 3 cm wide approx

If I cut down the tree he's still going to need to seal the hole in the wall and the cracks
 
I'm sure he will be blaming that on you too as you seem to be taking responsibility now for the tree by removing it which I'd be concerned will then leave you open to having to repair the damage 'your' tree caused!
 
thelad77 said:
I'm getting a ladder in 2 days time,
I looked closer today,
I notice there's a crack in his wall about 1 inch from the pipe
Crack is about 2 inches wide by 1.5 inch,
The tree is growing directly inside the wall,
Around the tree there's 2 or 3 cracks
In the wall,
About 14 inch long 3 cm wide approx

If I cut down the tree he's still going to need to seal the hole in the wall and the cracks
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thelad77, please don't take this wrong, but all that information about number of cracks and size of them is irrelevant to the matter.
Everyone here has given you the right advice: you are not legally responsible for anything growing in their pipe. No matter where it supposedly came from. That is irrelevant to you.
If you agree to remove the tree for them, you are opening yourself to them claiming that you did the damage to their wall during the removal.
They can then sue you asking you to pay for the repair of the cracks in their wall, which are their sole responsibility.

In the end, it is your choice, but we can't stress it enough: do not touch it, do not engage in the matter. Simply agree to allow access to an insured tradesman hired by them. Nothing else.
If he is unreasonable, let him try to take you to court over the "tree".
 
The ladder is only costing me 10 euro, I need it in order to
Install new PVC windows.
I'm not gonna remove the tree,
I. M just gonna cut it back abit to stop it growing and reduce the weight on the wall
If I removed it my neighbour would have a 2x 1 inch hole in his wall beside the pipe,
It will take a specialist to remove the tree and to seal the hole and the cracks,
I ll tell him he, ll need to employ a roof specialist to remove the tree and to seal the hole and make it
Safe, otherwise in the future he, ll have water going into his roof, attic
Space
That wall is 50 plus years old
 
There is no talking to you is there :) You are determined to go at something on a property that is not yours, on your own head be it!
 
thelad77 said:
I. M just gonna cut it back a bit to stop it growing and reduce the weight on the wall
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You do that, and you (as many many posters have detailed) will open yourself up to liability!!! As soon as you go at that tree / wall / hole / gutter, then you can be made responsible for the issues there.

thelad77 said:
I ll tell him he, ll need to employ a roof specialist to remove the tree and to seal the hole and make it
Safe, otherwise in the future he, ll have water going into his roof, attic
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You can tell him that without getting a ladder and touching his property - whether he listens to you or not, is not of your concern BUT as soon as you put that ladder onto the wall, then it becomes your concern.

Please, just go against your own judgement on this & leave him & his tree alone...
 
Please take on board the excellent advice from all these replies.
DO NOT GO NEAR THE TREE OR YOUR NEIGHBOUR'S DRAINPIPE.
DO NOT ADMIT THAT YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE DAMAGE TO THE WALL.
DO NOT ALLOW ANYONE INTO YOUR PROPERTY TO REPAIR IT WITHOUT INSURANCE.

Because of your obsession with this little tree in the drainpipe and your determination to take responsibility ( which is completely wrong) for it I'm beginning to think you're messing with us all! Forgive me if I'm thinking incorrectly.
 
I think he s annoyed with me , I have. nt gone outside in 6 months due to lock down etc
In the last 6months 5 trees have grown in my back yard , 2 small trees in his drainpipe,
In the last week I cut down 3 trees,
I had one tree growing in a side wall, elm tree.
On his roof about 6ft from the gable wall
There is a modern type roof window
Which can be opened.
So what i think happened is. As the tree on the pipe grew bigger.
He noticed it and asked me to remove it

Of course I have to fix the hole
On the other wall facing the gable
From where I cut out the elm tree


Update
Today I placed my ladder against the wall
I looked close up
, the pipe is 70 per cent full of leaves moss etc
About 2 inches from the end of the pipe the tree is growing inside the wall
There is a hole about 2 inches
X 1.2 inches
So if the tree is removed
There is a hole that will have to be filled in
I think it will take an expert to
remove the tree and fill in the hole
And seal it so it's weather resistant

If anyone wants I can upload photos
of the tree
He says if tree is not removed soon
It will bring down the drain pipe
Eg it will get larger as it grows

I understand its his responsibity
To fix it or employ an expert to fix it

Right now my yard is 50 per cent full if broken branch's leaves etc
From the trees I cut down

I'll tell him I think he ll need to employ an expert to remove the tree
And seal the hole in the wall
As I don't think I gave the tools to do so
And its his property to maintain
he has 2 cars I'm sure he could afford to employ an expert to do the work

There was a hole in his gable wall
There's at least 3 cracks in the wall
If a wall is not maintained.
then at some point.
There's a chance weeds or some plant will start growing in the cracks



There's also 2 cracks under the hole
About 2 cm wide by 12 cm long

I built a 400 sq ft extension
About 8 years ago with an ensuite bathroom
So I.m not completely ingnorant
re basic DIY
This extension was inspected by the council planning official and passed the inspection

Sorry for the long post
 
I read up on this the standard way to remove a tree growing in a wall is to cut it down to a stump, drill holes fill holes with a chemical to kill the tree and remove it.
This would to be done by an expert
So as to avoid causing more damage
To the wall.
I'm relieved cos it seems there was a hole at least 2 x 1 inch in the wall for years and maybe sometime
in the last 8months a tree grew inside the hole tree is about 3 to 4 feet high
Tree is growing right inside the wall
about 2 inchs from the end of the pipe

I'll wait a few days and tell him he, ll need to
employ someone to remove the tree and fill in the hole
and the cracks in the gable wall

Also remove the rest of the tree
Inside his roof space or his attic

Im not looking for advice I just thought I'd post an update
 
thelad77 said:
I read up on this the standard way to remove a tree growing in a wall is to cut it down to a stump, drill holes fill holes with a chemical to kill the tree and remove it.
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I'm almost afraid of where this might go, but anyway...the tree can't be more than a sapling. Drilling stumps and using root killers is for large mature trees with extensive root systems too large to dig out.
 
Leo said:
I'm almost afraid of where this might go, but anyway...the tree can't be more than a sapling. Drilling stumps and using root killers is for large mature trees with extensive root systems too large to dig out.
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The trees about 3 ft high,
The trunk growing inside the wall is 1.5 inch wide approx , the hole it grows into is about 2inchs from the top of the wall, where the roof slates are.
Are you saying there might be a simpler way of removing it,

Inside it would be growing just underneath
The roof slates
, from what I can see

Maybe cut it off close to the hole in the wall,
and then remove whatever piece, roots are left inside the roof space
 
Yes it's small but it's hard wood and it' needs to be removed so as not to damage the wall or cause more cracks
It's probably still growing inside the roof
 
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