Fireplace and stove

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I have an old 1950s fireplace and I want to replace the fireplace with a modern fireplace and insert wood burning stove. I’m finding it confusing looking at fireplaces separately to the stove. Has anyone used a supplier recently who did the whole package? I’d like to get an idea of cost and quality. Posts in this topic are a bit dated and don’t discuss suppliers or recent costs.
 
I had a large open fireplace. We had an inset stove fitted. 9kw. Fit directly into the opening. And finished with a black granite trim. We didn’t have a mantle to remove or anything like that and our fireplace is raised off the floor by about a foot.


Suplly and install a stanley solis i900 cassette stove and all associated works/materials was 4380 euro

Work was done Oct 2024
 
Don't know where you are but I priced this about 18mths ago, full job as in replace existing fireplace (leaving the actual surround because I like it) as in all the middle bit coming out and replaced with black granite around the stove, 7kw stove, job to be done in one day €3,800. There are 3 companies in my local town doing the job as an all in package, one of the others wouldn't look at it unless I paid for a chimney survey first and I didn't try 3rd crowd.

Family member had roughly same job priced within past few months with same company and €4,500 so prices have increased local to me anyway.

I didn't go ahead with it as I felt it just wasn't worth it to me for the amount of times I have a fire.
 
I used Top Cap who have offices in Kildare and Churchtown. My chimney needed minor repairs which was a little extra.
Usually for a stove install you need a 5 inch flexi flu liner as well as the stove, any necessary repairs to the chimney for safety and modifications if needed for the stove.
Most inserts are for a standard 16 inch opening, which needs to be non combustible. If you have a wrought iron shroud you like as I did they can adapt that for use with a stove.
Full cost at the time was 1200 for the stove, 900 for the 9m flexiliner and the rest for labour/repairs plus fitting a bird proof cowl. Full cost €2750.
Obviously 4 years have passed and it might cost you more.

I would say however that a proper chimney inspection should be the absolute minimum before you do anything to ensure that your chimney is safe to use and get it cleaned also. The reason there's such a gap between professional installers and Jimmy with his van is because Hetas stopped certifying for Ireland in 2022 and Jimmy certainly won't certify his work. 3.8k sounds about right given there's been a change in stove standards starting 2022 (ecodesign models only, beginning of 2022 they were allowed to install old stock until gone) and obviously costs have gone up. They would definitely need to inspect your existing chimney for fitness before quoting anything.

The house I bought only had broken or quasi broken electric storage and panel heaters so the stove was a must as it gives off a lot more heat for a slightly lower price.
 
I got the chimney cleaned and inspected. He gave it the thumbs up. Now I need to buy a nice fireplace and stove.
 
I have a Stovax insert stove which burns wood or coal its the larger version approx 9kw but was put in 5 years ago and cost €3500 that was without a new fire surround or hearth and removal of a gas insert fire. The chimney was examined and lined it was done by Cliffords in Dublin and we are happy with it 5 years in.

We just however got a Gazco log fire fitted the fire was €4500 and fitting with a new surround nothing fancy mind you and leaving previous granite hearth was €4000 prices seem to have risen drastically. The chimney was again inspected and lined and we are very happy but I am still not over the cost of it to be honest.
 
I went to Fordes Superstore in Kilcock. They did the stove, flue lining and the whole fireplace. No idea what it cost, it was a few years back.
 
Would this improve your BER and potentially your mortgage rate if you have one? Worth considering to offset some of the cost if applicable.
 
misemoi said:
Would this improve your BER and potentially your mortgage rate if you have one? Worth considering to offset some of the cost if applicable
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Small impact - if you had an open fire previously it would be counted as a room heater and given a low efficiency rating - 18%, compared to around 76%+ you would get a higher score for room heater.
But unless you are on the cusp between 2 different BER scores its probably unlikely to move you up anymore than 1 rating if at all.
 
AJAM said:
Wood burners linked to 2,500 deaths a year in the UK, analysis finds
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This needs to be offset against the 4000 to as many as 9000 who die each year in the UK from cold, damp and mouldy homes caused by inadequate heating. Shrug of indifference indeed.

ageing-better.org.uk

Why are 9,000 annual cold home deaths met with such a shrug of indifference?

Widespread media coverage has been detailing the death of Barbara Bolton who was found by her grandson slumped at her kitchen table and unable to speak because of profound hypothermia.
ageing-better.org.uk ageing-better.org.uk
 
lff12 said:
This needs to be offset against the 4000 to as many as 9000 who die each year in the UK from cold, damp and mouldy homes caused by inadequate heating. Shrug of indifference indeed.
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the people spending thousands on wood burning stoves are not the same people dying of cold, and I'd imagine close to 100% of them have central heating and the stove is a lifestyle accessory.
 
lff12 said:
This needs to be offset against the 4000 to as many as 9000 who die each year in the UK from cold, damp and mouldy homes caused by inadequate heating. Shrug of indifference indeed.
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Only if you're suggesting that all those who die due to wood burning are those at risk of death due to fuel poverty, but we know that's not the case.

Stoves are expensive and are most used by those in middle or upper classes. Most of those at risk of fuel poverty in the UK live in properties with oil or gas boilers as their primary heat source, and are unlikely to have the resources required to install a wood burner. 8% of the UK population have one or more wood burning stoves. Unless they have access to free fuel, wood burners tend to be more expensive overall that either oil or gas.
 
We are talking about wood-burning stoves.
Never in my life have I heard them called... wood burners, or log burners.

That aside - theres surely going to be restrictions on installation and use of stoves in Ireland, especially in urban areas.
I would think twice before having one installed.
 
Got a wood/coal burning stove installed by Lamartine (off the Walkinstown roundabout). They replaced the existing fireplace and horrible mantel, did the whole job. Very happy with it. We only use it occasionally, as the central heating is sufficient.
 
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