Building in the bills into the rent is the easiest solution.The simplest thing of all to do would be to build it into the bill. I lived in a self-contained apartment once and it was an "all bills" arrangement which was cheaper for everyone than the landlord installing a separate meter and having two sets of standing charges for me as a tenant.
As a tenant I got a tumble dryer and I agreed with the landlord to run a meter at the socket and refund her the cost, it was something like €30 over a winter.
There is honesty and trust necessary here, but that's going to be necessary anyway if you're living cheek by jowl with your tenant.
Have you spoken to your local authority on the likelihood of getting the required planning permission for this?We have a part of our house which we want to convert into an apartment.
Thanks. I already have a sub meter there but that cant be billed seperately but I can use it to record the usage as you suggest. The amount of changes to tarrifs in past year has been hard to follow.A sub meter is the easiest and best option.
I had one in part of a store I was renting a few years ago. The main tenant simply took the reading and applied an agreed unit rate and sent me a bill.
A good electrician will advise properly
Planning is OK as it was previously residential a while ago. It was RTB registered so thats proof it waas rented.Have you spoken to your local authority on the likelihood of getting the required planning permission for this?
RTB registration does not mean planning permission is in place for the proposed development. They have no role in matters of planning.Planning is OK as it was previously residential a while ago. It was RTB registered so thats proof it waas rented.
RTB registration does not mean planning permission is in place for the proposed development. They have no role in matters of planning.
It sounds like you are sub-dividing a property to create a separate unit, this is not an exempted development.
There is precedence for rental already in place. Its a seperate house on deeds, for LPT and RTB previously. There is nothing stopping anybody from renting out their home (go travelling, getting married, retiring) either through full rental or through rent a room (if they continue to live there).
What question did you ask?Just for curiosity on the above post by @Leo I rang my local council who confirmed that no there is no need to go for planning. 'Once its rented, its registered on RTB, Not an AirBnB in the RPZ zone, its not changed outside of refurbishment norms then its good to go'
Actually if the shop has been vacant for a time exemptions under the Bringing Back Homes scheme might apply. But we're not talking change of use here.I imagine if it was a shop on a High St and I wanted to convert then I'd have to go for change of use.
The building is already in two. Two seperate doors, two seperate gas, LPT, ESB (sub meter but not individual meter). No planning requirement from me. I can rent it but need a better meter solution.What question did you ask?
It sounds like you have misunderstood what I was saying. Planning of course isn't required to rent a property. However, you can not split a dwelling in to two separate units without planning, and both units will have to be fully compliant with the relevant building regs. Splitting a dwelling into two units is not a refurbishment norm.
Of course there may be circumstances where exempted works might get you over the line, if you feel that is the case you should seek a Section 5 declaration from the local authority to confirm all is above board.
Your use of the work conversion suggested more works were required. Perhaps just check the planning that is in place, in many cases where separation like you speak of is incorporated, the permission will explicitly forbid letting part of it.The building is already in two. Two seperate doors, two seperate gas, LPT, ESB (sub meter but not individual meter). No planning requirement from me. I can rent it but need a better meter solution.
No its already in place, seperate etc. Planning is in place it was just the meter query that was my worry.Your use of the work conversion suggested more works were required. Perhaps just check the planning that is in place, in many cases where separation like you speak of is incorporated, the permission will explicitly forbid letting part of it.
I had one of those after PRTB made my landlord put in hot running water. Rate at 2x the ESB rate. I moved within 2 months.you could put a "private meter" on the apartment and charge the tenant an agreed price per unit every month. That was something I did as a student, many years ago!
if you have a "sub meter" can you not just take the reading from that and extrapolate a reasonable chargeback to the tenants for the power they actually use?The building is already in two. Two seperate doors, two seperate gas, LPT, ESB (sub meter but not individual meter). No planning requirement from me. I can rent it but need a better meter solution.
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