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My wife and I both drive EVs, absolutely love them and once you get used to how quick they are, the smoothness of the drive, the quietness, waking up to a ‘full tank’ every morning, not going to petrol stations every few days, the low cost, the sturdy feel of the cars (the heavy battery means even a small car feels chunky, like that typical German luxury brand feel) etc there is no going back, ever.
There’s no doubt that you need to choose an EV that suits your needs, if you drive 50000km a year, all on the motorway, or you live in an apartment so cannot get a home charger, you probably should not be buying an EV yet.
To your questions -
1. Within 3-4 weeks you learn the range of the car and this mostly goes away. Queuing anxiety at chargers is much more real, because right not the charging network is a bit overburdened, but the ESB and Ionity are doing big roll-outs as we speak to fix this.
2. If you have home charging then you will hopefully be doing 95%+ of your charging at home, so the charging network is not a major deal, and as I say is about to improve very significantly.
3. I’d say no and no. We want people to use chargers then move their cars so others can get in there, so both charging and parking should come at a cost.
4. The 24kWh Leafs are incredible value if you just want to drive around the city with the very odd longer journey. €10k would get you a low mileage high spec 2014 capable of 120km per charge. The Ionia also gets very good reports. If you have more money to throw around, then the newer generation (Leaf+, Kona, eNiro, Tesla Model3) will all do 3-400km and are either available or will be by the summer, in the €35-45k price range.
The 0% BIK, Accelerated Capital Allowance Scheme and partial VAT rebate make EVs very attractive as company cars FWIW.
Great thread and I have made it a Key Post.
How many fully electric vehicle models are there?
For some reason, I had assumed it was only Tesla.
If there is such a choice, why is there such a fuss about Tesla?
Brendan
So the Leaf is the best selling EV in Ireland - sells more than the rest put together.
http://www.irishevowners.ie/best-selling-irish-bevs-for-2018-new-car-sales/
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The battery will wear out. Warranties are around 100,000Km or 8 to 10 years and the replacement cost is €5000+.
That said the running cost per year for a Nissan Leaf is about €1000 cheaper than a small diesel Focus or Golf.
This is my main concern with EVs, I'd imagine there'd be a big hit on the resale value when it comes to upgrade.The battery will wear out. Warranties are around 100,000Km or 8 to 10 years and the replacement cost is €5000+.
This is my main concern with EVs, I'd imagine there'd be a big hit on the resale value when it comes to upgrade.
Great thread and I have made it a Key Post.
How many fully electric vehicle models are there?
For some reason, I had assumed it was only Tesla.
If there is such a choice, why is there such a fuss about Tesla?
Brendan
Nissan offer a 5 year, 60,000 mile warranty on the Leaf (new model) in the UK.
Tesla are in an elite segment all on their own, the brand has incredible prestige, I'm not saying it's entirely justified but even four year old Teslas are close on 60k, you are talking 90k new
They do look futuristic in design and styling
Where? The goal was $35k but I Tesla have ended up selling more expensive models with software restrictions for $35k.Tesla Model 3 brand new starts at 30k
What do you mean wear out? And how soon?The battery will wear out. Warranties are around 100,000Km or 8 to 10 years and the replacement cost is €5000+.
Where? The goal was $35k but I Tesla have ended up selling more expensive models with software restrictions for $35k.
What do you mean wear out? And how soon?
I believe battery degradation especially in newer models is not an issue in the short to medium term (i.e. good for more than 10 years). And if / when they do 'wear out' they can be re-used for other purposes.
Wear out; not hold their charge any more. Have you a mobile phone? Does the battery like deteriorate? Yes? Well that.What do you mean wear out? And how soon?
If it's that good how come they are still only offering the same warranty?I believe battery degradation especially in newer models is not an issue in the short to medium term (i.e. good for more than 10 years). And if / when they do 'wear out' they can be re-used for other purposes.
Wear out; not hold their charge any more. Have you a mobile phone? Does the battery like deteriorate? Yes? Well that.
If it's that good how come they are still only offering the same warranty?
What other purposes can they be used for? Can you use them to construct a patio or something?
I think they can be used to store electricity from solar panels on houses or from wind turbines ( domestic, not commercial).
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