WarrenBuffet
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Are they for real? I can see where they are coming from, to an extent, but honestly they way they are talking you would swear Ireland should be hammering Italy! The team may be getting older but they are the bloody world champions!!
They keep mentioning Andy Reid - you would swear he was Zinedine Zidane. He was dropped from the squad for discipline reasons.......plus it isnt as if he is lighting up the Premiership!
As for consistently mentioning that little ****er Stephen Ireland! No matter how good he is do we really want a little tool like that pulling on the green jersey and representing Ireland!
Finally, (rant almost over), the way they talk about Trappatoni you would swear he was some idiot who didn't really have a clue what he is doing! What have they done to even compare to what he has? I don't offer my opinion on what my doctor says because at the end of the day i know sfa about what he is telling me!
As for NI and RoI being as good as their teams of the past, I would ask why so many of their players aren't playing at the top level. If they were good enough they would be playing at the top clubs, and many are not.
Nothwithstanding the above, there are about 30 Irish players on Premier League first team squads, most of whom are getting regular gametime. Look back to the Charlton era and you'll find that a lot of players in the Ireland squad were not even playing in the old Division 1. Credit where credit is due, Charlton go the best out of a squad that had some star players, but practically no debt. But Trap is working with a much deeper squad.
Have to say I'd generally agree with Giles, and Dunphy to a lesser extent.
In fairness to them they have acknowledged that we have limited players and that they are giving their all for the cause. Dont think any of that is in question.
While Ireland played better than recently, it was against 10 men and with 5 minutes to go it looked like we were on a loser since for all our possession we werent creating any decent chances. So I think we should we should feel lucky we got a draw.
What Dunphy was giving out about was mainly a few selections and switches. For instance taking off Doyle when you are 1 down and desparately need a goal doesnt make much sense. There's a carousel of nobodys coming in and out of that midfield with no apparent logic to it, so while Reid is no messiah it would make sense to have him as an option - the annoying/frustrating thing is that its clear that Trap & Brady would rather put on a waterboy than Reid since their pride and stubborness is limiting their options.
As for Stephen Ireland, I dont think G & D, or anyone else of note, is blaming anyone other than (possibly) the man himself for not playing. Understandable that people lament his absence given the dearth of talent in that sector.
So hope we qualify, Trap doing ok with what he has but a few strange decisions here and there.
well they say its a game of opinions.Firstly, big Jack made a joke of Irelands most talented squad of players. We had a much stronger bunch of individual first teamers back then. Wont go into it as if you dont recognise this, you shouldnt be talking football,
Secondly, the squad players available to Ireland are very limited and 2nd-3rd seed material. Shay Given, Richard Dunne and Robbie Keane are our best players playing regular football for top teams. Mcgeady plays in Scotland (but is good IMO), O'Shea is a bit part player played everywhere for united, McShane is definantly one of the worst players in the team and plays for a relegation struggling team, Kilbane is a likable player who gives it 100%, whelan and andrews dont necessarily start for their clubs, Hunt and Doyle play in the championship.
What Dunphy was giving out about was mainly a few selections and switches. For instance taking off Doyle when you are 1 down and desparately need a goal doesnt make much sense. There's a carousel of nobodys coming in and out of that midfield with no apparent logic to it, so while Reid is no messiah it would make sense to have him as an option - the annoying/frustrating thing is that its clear that Trap & Brady would rather put on a waterboy than Reid since their pride and stubborness is limiting their options.
Sorry you are way of the mark - Reid is a Fat Boy failure- Gibson being blooded now makes far more sense than bringing on guitar strumming Mars boys
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