TheBigShort
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Are these routes going to have multiple operators on them, or just the new operator ? If only the new operator, how exactly is it increasing competition ?
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0810/896450-go-ahead-dublin-bus-routes/
Competition on the bus routes. Reducing the subsidy paid by taxpayers and increasing efficiency of the bus service.
This will no doubt result in reduced burden on public finances and result in cheaper fares for consumers.
Or will it?
Dublin bus staff not required to transfer across....they will be giving alternative work elsewhere in the company if they so wish.
I agree, it hasn't been explained what it was that Go Ahead would provide in their tender application that Dublin Bus did not already provide.I don't see any real logic to what has taken place here - other than to introduce the principal of removing Dublin Bus from certain routes.
So there is no direct competition in the consumer marketplace, the competition is in the tendering process.
If company A can provide the same service and standards cheaper than company B and ticket fares remain the same for consumers, who benefits from the reduced costs?
I don’t think this is about the cost to consumers but rather the subsidy by the State on the cost of running the service.
In the longer term it should also reduce the cost to the State of funding very generous defined benefit pensions for CIE group company employees.
Priceless; Cost reduction State company style, "We are outsourcing your job but we'll keep paying you."Dublin bus staff not required to transfer across....they will be giving alternative work elsewhere in the company if they so wish.
You are probably right but I do like the idea of people paying for the services they consume rather than things being funded through general taxation. People should pay the full cost for their bus and train journeys and not expect their neighbour to subsidise them.The cost to consumers v the cost to taxpayers. Invariably, they are the same people. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
I doubt if the consumer taxpayer will see any benefit by way of reduced taxes, or improved services or reduced prices.
Just my hunch.
You are probably right but I do like the idea of people paying for the services they consume rather than things being funded through general taxation. People should pay the full cost for their bus and train journeys and not expect their neighbour to subsidise them.
I am also not sure full stop about some of these orbital routes as currently routed\timetabled, whether run by Dublin Bus or another operator, 90% of the time when I see a 104 bus it has less than 5 people on it!
Cheaper yellow pack staffI agree, it hasn't been explained what it was that Go Ahead would provide in their tender application that Dublin Bus did not already provide.
Do you think that a private operated service charging the same fares, providing the same service will increase passenger numbers?
If company A can provide the same service and standards cheaper than company B and ticket fares remain the same for consumers, who benefits from the reduced costs?
https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0810/896450-go-ahead-dublin-bus-routes/
Competition on the bus routes. Reducing the subsidy paid by taxpayers and increasing efficiency of the bus service.
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