Dogs are for Life (Not Just for Christmas)

joer said:
One thing about your posts, Purple , is they always have lots of information......and are always entertaining ...not always at the same time of course.
Keep it up..
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I've had far worse said about me... today. :D
 
joer said:
The thing about that is .....you probably expect it .... whether you like it or not :) . I imagine that it runs off you like water off a ducks back :D
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Yes, on the surprisingly rare occasion that people give me reasons why they don't like me I generally agree with their character assessment. I can't get angry with a reasonable character assessment.
 
Tipperary woman who subjected dogs to ‘prolonged starvation’ sentenced to community service

The vet was of the view that this was the result of prolonged starvation.
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One dog was immediately shaved to prevent it from over-heating, and it was found that almost 9pc of its original weight was hair that was removed.

A probation report was presented to Judge McGrath this week which suggested that the defendant was “at a moderate risk of reoffending”. The court heard that the accused was of very limited means and was only able to raise the sum of €150 towards prosecution costs.
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Convicting the defendant, Judge McGrath ordered that she complete 100 hours of community service in lieu of a three-month custodial sentence.
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She also imposed a disqualification order of five years from owning or having interest in any dog, stating that she felt that Ms Skehan was incapable of taking care of any dogs, at least for the next five years.
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Has no money yet was keeping 4 dogs. Between vet bills and food, pets are not cheap. Clearly either had no insight or did not care.

Having a pet is not a human right - she should just be barred outright from owning/minding/walking dogs for life.

5 years will bring her to 56 which is practically a whippersnapper these days, so she will have decades of potential dog ownership ahead of her. Makes me shiver to think of the poor animals who could end up in her custody.
 
arbitron said:
Tipperary woman who subjected dogs to ‘prolonged starvation’ sentenced to community service





Has no money yet was keeping 4 dogs. Between vet bills and food, pets are not cheap. Clearly either had no insight or did not care.

Having a pet is not a human right - she should just be barred outright from owning/minding/walking dogs for life.

5 years will bring her to 56 which is practically a whippersnapper these days, so she will have decades of potential dog ownership ahead of her. Makes me shiver to think of the poor animals who could end up in her custody.
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I think part of the issue here was that she was not spending money on vet bills or food for the dogs. Agree though that the ban could and should have been longer. I do know one farmer who was convicted of cruelty and there was mental issues at the core of the problem so not always simple
 
thedaddyman said:
I think part of the issue here was that she was not spending money on vet bills or food for the dogs. Agree though that the ban could and should have been longer. I do know one farmer who was convicted of cruelty and there was mental issues at the core of the problem so not always simple
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We have amongst the most generous welfare systems in the world so very few families live in poverty due to economic issues. There is usually mental health and/or addiction issues at the core. I'm in no way dismissing the issues around pets I'm more concerned about the children and it's far harder to remove the children.
 
Man handed lifetime animal ban after ‘depraved’ abuse of pet husky:

A dog owner caught on camera abusing his pet husky in a manner which a judge said “borders on depraved brutality” avoided jail but was handed a lifetime animal ban.
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He imposed the lifetime ban; however, he ordered that it could be reviewed after five years.
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So not actually a lifetime ban. I don't understand why these are ever reviewed. There is no constitutional entitlement to a pet.

The perpetrator said he would like to do a dog handling course, which his barrister said shows he know what he did was wrong.

I think it just shows he has zero insight into what he did and plans to get his hands on another poor dog ASAP.
 
Father of one Taffe claimed he had been “instructing” Simba at the time of the abuse.
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The relevance of "father of one" being either:
(i) that his reproductive bits are working properly (yee-haw!), or
(ii) that there's a young child round who may also be at risk of being badly treated.

However, suspending the sentence for two years because of the accused’s personal circumstances and factors raised in a mitigation plea, he noted that it occurred during “a dark period” in Taffe’s life. At the time of the offence, he had other problems which led him to alcohol and drug abuse, and he is very sorry.
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Presumably "he is very sorry" mainly because he was caught abusing the dog.

[His barrister informed the court that he is] already serving a sentence for another offence and will be released in about nine months, after which he intends to complete a dog-handling course, indicating his acceptance that his behaviour was wrong.
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.... or indicating that he plans to get another dog (to abuse?) when he gets out of prison. :(

Depressingly, the judge didn't even instruct him to contribute to the DSPCA's costs in minding the unfortunate dog who was eventually put down.

Effectively, zero punishment.
 
Well said @Leper . Sadly, I'm old enough to remember the same topic of conversation since the '80's.

I honestly thought it was broadly a thing of the past. Sad to hear it is still prevails.

I had an uncle who lived in poverty-stricken rural part of Ireland in the '70's. For extra income he would 'dispose' of unwanted kittens and pups. The practice he used was barbaric. Haunts me to think about it.

Has nobody thought of ways to eradicate this behaviour? I know micro-chipping has probably gone a long way to assisting?
 
Marsupial said:
the unfortunate dog who was eventually put down
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If the abuse was such that it led to the destruction of the unfortunate dog then jail is the only appropriate punishment. and yes of course, housing and vets costs for the the dog should follow as a matter of course, even if it's a €5 a week for life from wages/welfare payments.
 
Sister Sara said:
I had an uncle who lived in poverty-stricken rural part of Ireland in the '70's. For extra income he would 'dispose' of unwanted kittens and pups. The practice he used was barbaric. Haunts me to think about it.
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I knew a man in the South East who kept gun dogs. If a pup wouldn't retrieve it was shot. His view was they were working animals, just like sheep or cows etc. He said that pigs were smarter than dogs (which is true) and we kill them and eat them so what's the big deal about killing a dog? I was a boy at the time and didn't argue with him.
 
Purple said:
I was a boy at the time and didn't argue with him.
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But his logic holds true, irrespective of your age. I'd far rather see animals being despatched as quickly and painlessly as possible by a competent vet or other expert, rather than being starved, tortured or abused. That said, what he was doing was, presumably, completely illegal?

Having a fertile mind and an idle afternoon, your comment and my response inspired me to visit the Wikipedia entry about Dog Eating in Korea. Like me, you'll be pleased to know that in January 2024, the Korean parliament passed a law criminalizing the raising or slaughtering of dogs for consumption and the sale and distribution of dog meat, with effect from 2027.

Needless to say, the Chinese are still very keen on eating hot dogs - especially if they're 100% authentic! (Don't read this: https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-33283694 )
 
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