Does Teaching Council fee affect salary payment?

[TRipley]

A teacher friend of mine who is in a permanent teaching post (principal) was recently deliberating over whether or not they should pay this years teachers council fee as a cost saving option. They were told on contacting the council that if they didn't pay the annual subscription fee of €90 that they may not get paid!

Is this true?

What value does the teaching council fee provide? and what is the consequence if any of not paying it?

 

[PaddyBloggit]

That's true ... and they will start enforcing it.

EPV courses this year ... some of them require the participant (teacher) to include their Teaching Council registration number.

New circulars just issued mean also that from Sept 2010 any teacher moving jobs etc. must have a registration number or they'll be paid at the untrained rate (if at all).

The fee is not an option .... it's mandatory and they are starting to enforce it.

Tell him pay it ... I have .... it's another tax/bill to be paid but unfortunately we have to pay it .....

Got this from union (I.N.T.O.) re. the new circulars:

The DES has issued two new circulars dealing with (1) the appointment of teaching staff and (2) the recognition of teachers' qualifications.
The circular on teacher recruitment sets down two key criteria governing all new teacher appointments from 1 September 2010. These can be summarised as follows:
1. All teachers proposed for appointment from 1 September 2010 must be qualified and registered with the Teaching Council. (Unregistered teachers and unqualified personnel will be paid at the untrained rate).
2. Teachers appointed at primary level from 1 September 2010 must have qualifications appropriate to the primary sector.
The implications of these two requirements are as follows:

• New teachers entering service, teachers changing schools and teachers becoming principals in a school other than their current one must be registered with the Teaching Council.
• Teachers who are appointed in advance of being registered by the Teaching Council will only be paid at the qualified rate from the date of registration.
• The existing position which allows special schools catering for a cohort of postprimary age pupils to recruit post-primary qualified teachers remains.
• However, post-primary qualified teachers are not considered appropriately qualified for the Mainstream primary sector and Circular 24/00 is being rescinded.

The other circular is in relation to teachers qualified abroad. The key purpose of this circular is to formally announce that issues relating to the recognition of teaching qualifications obtained abroad are the responsibility of the Teaching Council.


Circulars in question are:

Circular 31/2010 - Teacher Registration and Qualifications European Council Directives on Mutual Recognition of Professional Qualifications
Circular 40/2010 - Teacher Recruitment Registration Qualifications

Circulars apply to both Primary and Secondary Schools.

 

[csirl]

Agree with Paddy.

Friend of mine is on the Board of Management of a Secondary School. Unregistered teachers are legally regarded as "unqualified" and so can only be paid the unqualified rate.

My wife, who's a teacher, pointed out another big downside of not paying. When this was introduced, all existing teachers were allowed register by forwarding name, details etc. before a certain date. New teachers, and those teachers who's registration lapses must go through a vetting process which takes time and is a load of hastle re: providing details and paperwork. My wife is on a career break, but has maintained her registration as the vetting is too much hastle and it would cost more money to get copies of certs etc.

 

[TRipley]

thanks for your replies, you points are well made.

It seems there is value in becoming a member as the TC ensure qualifications are recognised - my parting comment on this however is to pose the question - why should the fee be paid every year, year in year out for a permanent teacher who is not moving to a new position or moving school?

 

[chrisboy]

thanks for your replies, you points are well made.

It seems there is value in becoming a member as the TC ensure qualifications are recognised - my parting comment on this however is to pose the question - why should the fee be paid every year, year in year out for a permanent teacher who is not moving to a new position or moving school?

Rip off Ireland. My GF is a teacher and a member. 90 euro for a 3 monthly newsletter..

 

[Purple]

thanks for your replies, you points are well made.

It seems there is value in becoming a member as the TC ensure qualifications are recognised - my parting comment on this however is to pose the question - why should the fee be paid every year, year in year out for a permanent teacher who is not moving to a new position or moving school?

Rip off Ireland. My GF is a teacher and a member. 90 euro for a 3 monthly newsletter..

I listened to teachers telling me that they are "Professionals" for years. Well now they have their own professional body and they will have to fund it through their membership fees, just like other professions. Ye's can't have it both ways!

 

[Firesign]

My friend is a teacher and she recommends paying. Its a safety net for all teachers, like being a member of the medical council. Teachers have been the butt of alot of criticism in recent difficult financial times. They work hard and should be proud of their jobs, its so hard and I certainly would find it difficult to do. The Teaching Council are there to protect the profession and ensure its taken seriously in the public arena. She said we're one of the last countries in Europe to get such a body and teachers and unions have been fighting for it for over 30 years. Its here now and should be supported. I just took a look at their website to see what they do and in fairness it seems to be fairly new and they've accomplished a huge amount in such a short time! Also if she doesn't pay the annual fee she won't get paid by the looks of it.... looks like its the law.... similar to a licence to drive etc etc. On the other side I would defo prefer my children (don't have any but if I did) to be in the hands of a registered an garda vetted teacher rather than some joe soap who walks off the street to give a dig out.... which I believe has more or less been known to happen in years past!