Creative Windows - Alu Clad sliding sash

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cork boy

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Hi

I am looking at Wood alu-clad sliding sash windows.

Has anyone Kolbe & Kolbe windows (supplied by Creative Windows in Kilkenny).

What is the quality like? How do they compare to say Marvin?

Any advice would be welcome.

Thanks

Cork Boy
 
Here,s a site that may help you to chose the right type of window for your situation, and also has some comparison info ect.

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sabre
 
sabre said:
Here,s a site that may help you to chose the right type of window for your situation, and also has some comparison info ect.

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sabre
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Hi Sabre I had a read of that site and see it says

There are many wood window manufacturers that produce windows that will last 20, 30, 40 years if they are well maintained.
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If Iroko is used to make your windows they could last 100 years, I can't help but wonder why the author didn't mention that fact since it's well documented.

Sabre I'm sure you as a joiner of long standing would agree with me here that if Iroko is used in windows and well maintained (painted every 5 to 7 years) they would last a 100 years.
 


The op has expressed an interest in Alu Clad windows presumably because of the low maintainence aspect related to Clad windows. Dismissing them as an option for no reason , and no explanation is confusing.

sabre
 
Sorry sabre but you posted a link to a site with incomplete information and I thought it needed to be brought out.

Hope that clears up any confusion.
 
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sabre
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As you are aware if windows are made from Iroko (and properly maintained) they will last up to and exceed 100 years of life.

the site you posted only said they would last 30 to 40 years and did not give proper info, what it said was

There are many wood window manufacturers that produce windows that will last 20, 30, 40 years if they are well maintained.
There are many wood window manufacturers that produce windows that will last 20, 30, 40 years if they are well maintained.
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this would to my mind give a very false impression that PVC and wood have the same life expectancy which is totally untrue as you well know.
 
 
Here is the pdf link to the life expectancy of house components, page 18 has the stats on window life for wood, aluminium, and pvc.

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sabre
 
Here is an interesting comparative survey done on windows by the school of engineering in Edinburgh. By all accounts your Alu Clad windows fair very well. Pay particular attention to table 2 page 10, where the esimated service life of Aluminium, Pvc, Timber and Alu Clad windows are assessed. It seems Alu Clad comes out tops, according to these experts.

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sabre
 
sabre said:
Here is the pdf link to the life expectancy of house components, page 18 has the stats on window life for wood, aluminium, and pvc.

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sabre
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From the same document

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Regarding the lifespan of Iroko windows I read somewhere that Iroko lasts 100 years if properly looked after I can't find that info now.​
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Another point is in the reports cited, timber window are defined as being pine, cedar or redwood.

In this case it is no wonder Alu-clad have a longer lifetime, paper windows would do just as good.

My parents have hardwood windows for the last 35 years, glazing has been replaces twice due to break down of double glazing, no sign of any aging on the timber.

While this debate has gone way off topic, I'm sorry OP I have no experience of Creative windows, can't help there, I would favour well made hardwood windows over PVC, aluminium or alu-clad.
 
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From the same document



Regarding the lifespan of Iroko windows I read somewhere that Iroko lasts 100 years if properly looked after I can't find that info now.[/left]
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You,ve read the document correctly. Both the pros and cons of different window materials. I have not attempted to show a bias towards any, as I think the factual information gives the op a better opportunity to arrive at an option that suits his personal requirements , and not mine.

It seems strange that you can find no information related to lifetime expectancy of Iroko, yet you have made many references to 100 years plus. When did you read that Iroko would last 100 years plus, and why would it. If it has that type of life expectancy , would it not be the No 1 marketing point of timber window manufacturers. I,d be very interested to see that document, I hope you can find it, thanks.

sabre
 
Its funny, if you do a search on durability of iroko windows, this discussion pops up about Creative windows!

A deeper search finds this post where specifically, the expectation is that Iroko windows will last 100 years:

http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2201

Not sure if you are trying to obtain of the shelf - I suggest you get ones made in iroko. I have some DG ones I designed in fairly exposed wet climate; perfect after 15 years and I expect them to last for a 100.

Timber durability is like any of our bodies, expectancy has a lot to do with exposure, protection, maintenance & use. If you look after it, it will last longer.
 

I went through the thread, but I can only find some ones expectation , but no document or factual material about its life expectancy in window manufacture. If you can find it, please post it, thanks.

sabre
 
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