Not straightaway perhaps but surely the new scale increases to a much greater amount than the one before promotion?I can easily see why some people don't bother trying for promotions as they increase in pay is not significant enough to warrant the extra responsibilities.
Why don't you look at moving into the private sector?The issue is, I requested the promotion on the basis of an immediate and noteworthy wage gain due to some of the work I had begun doing (which was way above my pay-scale, something I would have been paid much higher to do in the private sector for example). I'm proud of this work and happy with how it benefited my employer. This is why it was a bit deflating to see the immediate gain only go up by roughly 3k.
That's true but the increases are not significantly enough in my opinion. But perhaps that's just in local authorities as opposed to other public sector employers which may have wider margins between scales. The difference at the top of both scales is only around €6-7k before tax, which I wouldn't really consider significant enough in relation to the extra demands and responsibilities expected at a higher grade.Not straightaway perhaps but surely the new scale increases to a much greater amount than the one before promotion?
That's true but the increases are not significantly enough in my opinion.
The other issue to consider is that the new grade, even though it may not pay much more, provides an opportunity for experience that would help you to get further promotions.That's true but the increases are not significantly enough in my opinion
I am wondering where I will fall on the payscale. I am currently on the 3rd point of Grade III scale (32,969k) and my increment date is December 2025 which I would be moving to point 5 (35,100k) (skipping point 4). I am just wondering would my starting salary as Grade IV be the 1st point of scale or the 2nd? I have seen conflicting information online and am unsure.
It is part of the new entrant provisions - as I started after March 2020 clerical and admin grades are entitled to essentially skip point 4 and 8 on the salary scale, as I am on point 3 now I would skip point 4 and go straight to point 5
I know this measure is still in place as my colleagues on the same grade as me have skipped point 4 and gone straight to point 5 already this year - I have also been informed by management that this is the caseI'm fairly sure this is not the case. While it's true that two additional incremental points were added to some grades during the so-called FEMPI measures - they were scrapped about four or five years ago. Those adjustments to the scale have already been made - and those affected were given the benefit of skipping those points on the scale. As things stand you'll go from point 3 to the current point 4.
That's the way it works almost everywhere - I don't know how it could be otherwise. You were just a bit unlucky with timing - but it can work the other way - e.g you could get promoted just after you enter a new point on the scale. (I'm petrified that I'll drop dead one day away from my 100th birthday and miss out on that cheque from the President!)it doesn't seem to matter if you are one day into your current scale point or if you are ten months into it.
No, the third secret is the way they’re allocated.For those in the Civil Service - the "higher scales" for each grade have been described to me as "the third secret of Fatima," in the way they're calculated
Or was it…….The third secret of Fatima was divulged by the Vatican in 2000.
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